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Meeting Summary
- Meeting started by Piñeiro at 16:01 CET.
- Meeting ended at 17:06 CET.
- Participants (Lines Said):
- Piñeiro - API (163)
- Joseph - clown (87)
- Magdalen - magpie (53)
- Allan - aday (14)
- Juanjo - jjmarin (14)
- Andre - andre_ (3)
- Mike - mgorse(2)
- Javier - Javido (1)
Progress Towards 3.12
Crosshairs Are Broken: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=723709.
This bug is caused by this change. Magdalen has a fix for this waiting on review.
- At FOSDEM Allan, Florian, and Magdalen all met up to talk about adding preferences to the control center.
- A couple of days ago, Allan and Magdalen approached Joseph in #a11y about adding said preferences.
- But there was some ambiguity about what was vital for the next release and how it should be done so that the preferences are clear
- to users.
- Magdalen explained there are still some bugs to iron out with the focus tracking so it's important people can turn it off and on again.
- Allan is confident he can come up with a design to update the preferences.
- Allan thinks will maybe be tomorrow or the beginning of next week, and will mostly be a reshuffle of what's already there, with the addition of some extra tracking options.
- Piñeiro notes that users also asked about how to turn on/off or change the mode on the mailing lists.
- There was also some discussion about whether or not the colour and tinting preferences should be in the zoom or not.
That discussion was informed by bug 596386.
- Magdalen spoke to drag01 about perhaps making the colour changes in g-s firstly so that the colour/tinting can be activated independently of the magnifier in there.
- This would mean that the preferences could come later on.
- Magdalen can help Allan on the control center patches as long as she knows what the design is because Magdalen is a bit lost with the design end of things.
- The freeze is on 17th Feb.
The schedule is here: https://wiki.gnome.org/Schedule.
- Magdalen thinks the most important thing is to allow people to turn each of the tracking on and off independently because people will have different requirements but suspects Joseph might have some more thoughts to share on this topic.
- The code for preferences does not depend on the design it just engages the design.
- IDEA: including mouse tracking now the focus caret are there it might be good to have a way to turn mouse tracking off and still use magnifier too.
- Allan will circulate some design ideas as soon as possible - to be discussed further.
Wayland
- Matthias sent an email to release-team suggesting to move GNOME release one week.
- This change is related with the next release of Wayland, so GNOME 3.12 could use the last stable one.
- During the same week, Piñeiro sent an email asking about what should be the default for GNOME 3.12.
- As the wiki still seems to suggest that would be Wayland, but for what he knew, it was not mature enough.
- Consensus was that X will be still default for 3.12.
- This is good news for accessibility, because as you know, there are still some feature not ported to Wayland.
- Due to this (X being the default) some people of the release-team think that it isn't worth changing the GNOME schedule due to Wayland.
- So right now it is not clear if the schedule will change or not.
https://wiki.gnome.org/Initiatives/Wayland/Gaps#Accessibility
W3C Updates
- The ARIA specifcations are very nearly at the next stage of publication, namely "Proposed Recommendation".
- The next step is to have the W3C members' official representative vote on approval of the documents.
- I anticipate that they will be approved (Joseph has inside information that Igalia will approve.)
- Sometime in the next week or so the proposed recommendation version of the spec will be published.
- I will annouce that on gnome-a11y list.
- The ARIA working group met in Toronto for three days two weeks ago.
- They went over the (long) list of outstanding issues and actions for version 1.1.
- They pared it down to the highest priority items.
- Work will begin on those items after the documents are published as proposed recommendation.
- More info can be found in the meeting mintues.
Marketing Updates
- Juanjo is working on updating the Wikipedia ATK and AT-SPI entries. He has a draft, and will send it to the maintainers, Piñeiro and Mike, today for some corrections/improvements. (Piñeiro already did it, but again just in case to add some more).
- After the corrections, Juanjo will start the process to update Wikipedia.
- ACTION: Juanjo will write a summary of the accessibility work done for the GNOME annual report.
Miscellaneous Time
ARIA face-to-face meeting day 1: http://www.w3.org/2014/01/23-aria-minutes.html
ARIA face-to-face meeting day 2: http://www.w3.org/2014/01/24-aria-minutes.html
ARIA face-to-face meeting day 3: http://www.w3.org/2014/01/25-aria-minutes.html
Action Items
New
- Juanjo:
- Write a summary of the accessibility work done for the GNOME annual report
Ongoing / Rolled-Over
- Joanie:
- Review the first public draft of ARIA 1.1 with specific attention to our current API.
- Do some testing and update the Evolution a11y bugs.
- Juanjo:
Track bug 608231
- Mike:
- Ping Alberto Ruiz about evolution and gtkhtml accessibility bugs.
- Investigate D-Bus authentication and what can be done with it.
- Piñeiro:
- Create bugs and patches, hoping that gtk, clutter and gnome-shell developers will be more active looking at patches.
- Follow up with the discussion on the Wayland list.
- gnome-shell not accessible on wayland. Hacky solution available. Proper solution needed.
- Look at tooltip related code to see the possibility of adding mouse-in, mouse-out event at the a11y toolkit.
- Check with gtk and clutter developers to see what the plans are with respect to pango.