1 Sep 07 22:00:34 <utian>	hi emily , pockey_lam 
   2 Sep 07 22:01:03 <emily>	hello utian
   3 Sep 07 22:01:03 <SFD_Fred>	hi all!
   4 Sep 07 22:01:09 <pockey_lam>	shall we start now? 
   5 Sep 07 22:01:19 <utian>	pockey_lam, i hope it's ok i ask andika to join this meeting
   6 Sep 07 22:01:36 <pockey_lam>	utian, please do 
   7 Sep 07 22:01:45 <utian>	he is coordinator of gnome indonesia translation team
   8 Sep 07 22:01:50 <pockey_lam>	utian, sure! 
   9 Sep 07 22:01:54 <utian>	pockey_lam, thanks
  10 Sep 07 22:02:08 <andika>	hi all, thanks for allowing me attend this meeting
  11 Sep 07 22:02:16 <pockey_lam>	andika, hi 
  12 Sep 07 22:02:18 <emily>	welcome andika
  13 Sep 07 22:02:31 <pockey_lam>	how about we start with introducing each others a bit , everybody a few sentences of self introduction ? 
  14 Sep 07 22:03:16 <utian>	ok pockey_lam 
  15 Sep 07 22:03:43 <utian>	start from me?
  16 Sep 07 22:03:47 <pockey_lam>	I am Pockey Lam, live in China, helping GNOME.Asia to organize event, marketing and promotion
  17 Sep 07 22:03:54 <pockey_lam>	everybody can say at the same time :)
  18 Sep 07 22:04:33 <pockey_lam>	utian, please do 
  19 Sep 07 22:04:54 *	andika is current GNOME Indonesian translation team; Debian user since ~1999
  20 Sep 07 22:04:55 <emily>	Emily Chen, Start GNOME.Asia summit with Pockey and Fred in 2008, now is the GNOME foundation board member, work in Oracle China, Beijing office 
  21 Sep 07 22:05:05 *	wers (~allan@112.203.106.214) has joined #asia-summit
  22 Sep 07 22:05:21 <pockey_lam>	wers, hey 
  23 Sep 07 22:05:27 <wers>	pockey_lam, hello :)
  24 Sep 07 22:05:32 <utian>	I am Utian, Indonesia, right now in the middle of organizing Indonesia Linux Conference and join BlankOn Linux Community, Indonesia Linux Distribution
  25 Sep 07 22:05:33 <andika>	s/team/team coordinator/
  26 Sep 07 22:05:34 <SFD_Fred>	wers: hey! you're here!
  27 Sep 07 22:05:38 <pockey_lam>	wers, we are starting the meeting, by everybody a short self - introduction
  28 Sep 07 22:06:04 <wers>	cool. does this have a publicly accessible log?
  29 Sep 07 22:06:25 <pockey_lam>	wers, no no, but i will send the log to the list 
  30 Sep 07 22:06:37 <wers>	pockey_lam, thanks :)
  31 Sep 07 22:06:45 *	andika is now known as andika_slow
  32 Sep 07 22:06:46 <pockey_lam>	wers, please introduce yourself
  33 Sep 07 22:06:48 *	SFD_Fred is GNOME.Asia committee member, SFI President, RUR-PLE maintainer, French living in South China and into FOSS in Education and busing preparing SFD at the moment
  34 Sep 07 22:07:08 *	andika (~andika@182.0.95.74) has joined #asia-summit
  35 Sep 07 22:07:20 *	SFD_Fred is also busy eating a prune tart he just finished cooking :P
  36 Sep 07 22:07:49 <utian>	SFD_Fred :D
  37 Sep 07 22:08:15 <pockey_lam>	wers, your turn 
  38 Sep 07 22:08:27 <SFD_Fred>	wers: you're supposed to introduce yourself (I think you missed that part of the chat)
  39 Sep 07 22:08:32 <SFD_Fred>	wers: we've just started
  40 Sep 07 22:08:37 <wers>	I work as a web UX designer. I contribute to GNOME's, Ubuntu's, and Firefox's UX design. I also do advocacy 
  41 Sep 07 22:08:47 <pockey_lam>	great
  42 Sep 07 22:09:03 <pockey_lam>	wers is from Philippines :)
  43 Sep 07 22:09:05 <wers>	I'm a board member of the Philippine Open Source Network, coordinator of the Mozilla Philippine Team, etc
  44 Sep 07 22:09:19 <emily>	btw, will told that he will be late for the meeting. He is on the way to office
  45 Sep 07 22:09:37 <pockey_lam>	emily, ok, so we start first?
  46 Sep 07 22:10:12 <pockey_lam>	Max from taiwan will join us later too
  47 Sep 07 22:10:38 <wers>	I miss you guys. had a great time in Taiwan. hehe :)
  48 Sep 07 22:10:48 <pockey_lam>	and supposed Akhil and abharath from India should join us
  49 Sep 07 22:10:56 <emily>	sure, please start 
  50 Sep 07 22:10:59 <pockey_lam>	wers, same here, we miss you too :) it was fun 
  51 Sep 07 22:11:03 <pockey_lam>	emily, ok
  52 Sep 07 22:11:09 <pockey_lam>	we can start and wait for them at the same time
  53 Sep 07 22:11:09 <SFD_Fred>	pockey_lam: do we miss him?
  54 Sep 07 22:11:16 <pockey_lam>	we do :)
  55 Sep 07 22:11:22 <SFD_Fred>	wers: ;-)
  56 Sep 07 22:11:29 <wers>	haha
  57 Sep 07 22:11:33 <pockey_lam>	first agenda : To host a hackfest / GNOME 3.0 release party for GNOME.Asia 2011
  58 Sep 07 22:11:34 <wers>	where's yippi?
  59 Sep 07 22:11:50 <pockey_lam>	wers, yippi / brian is not here...
  60 Sep 07 22:11:56 <pockey_lam>	but i m writing meeting notes... 
  61 Sep 07 22:12:06 <pockey_lam>	i will send notes out to brian and all of you 
  62 Sep 07 22:12:14 <SFD_Fred>	the schedule is quite intense as we should be ready around March
  63 Sep 07 22:12:30 <pockey_lam>	hackfest is Brian's idea
  64 Sep 07 22:12:53 <emily>	the hackfest's focus is on marketing 
  65 Sep 07 22:13:01 *	wers has quit (Remote closed the connection)
  66 Sep 07 22:13:10 <pockey_lam>	GNOME 3.0 will be released in March 2011, so we want to gather GNOME hackers to make a hack fest somewhere in Asia to hack on GNOME 3.0 
  67 Sep 07 22:13:19 <SFD_Fred>	the idea is to get top GNOME developers in Asia and boost a potential GNOME community in the region by doing so
  68 Sep 07 22:13:25 <pockey_lam>	and it will be the main theme for GNOME.Asia 2011
  69 Sep 07 22:13:33 <SFD_Fred>	it spreads over 5 days
  70 Sep 07 22:13:42 *	abharath (~abharath@59.96.59.29) has joined #asia-summit
  71 Sep 07 22:13:48 <SFD_Fred>	needs good internet connection (uncensored - so that keeps China out)
  72 Sep 07 22:13:51 <pockey_lam>	abharath, hi
  73 Sep 07 22:14:03 <abharath>	Sorry I just got held up
  74 Sep 07 22:14:13 <pockey_lam>	abharath, please shortly introduce yourself 
  75 Sep 07 22:14:26 <pockey_lam>	abharath, and we just started, we are talking about the hack fest idea (i mentioned to you before)
  76 Sep 07 22:14:52 *	wers (~allan@112.203.106.214) has joined #asia-summit
  77 Sep 07 22:14:56 <abharath>	Hello All, I am Bharath Acharya. I work on Evolution, and also a member of the GNOME Travel Committee
  78 Sep 07 22:15:06 <abharath>	and I stay in Bangalore, India
  79 Sep 07 22:15:30 <wers>	sorry got dc. GNOME Shell just froze on me. hehe. Gotta use stable software in a time like this
  80 Sep 07 22:15:33 <wers>	hi abharath :)
  81 Sep 07 22:15:48 <pockey_lam>	so the hack fest is a 5 days event
  82 Sep 07 22:15:50 <abharath>	pockey_lam: sure :) I'll read the logs later
  83 Sep 07 22:15:57 <abharath>	wers: hello
  84 Sep 07 22:16:04 <pockey_lam>	the idea is to get top GNOME developers in Asia and boost a potential GNOME community in the region by doing so
  85 Sep 07 22:16:07 <emily>	abharath: hey 
  86 Sep 07 22:16:39 <pockey_lam>	we can get companies like red hat, canonical, novell to committee to a number of developers to send to the hackfest
  87 Sep 07 22:16:40 <wers>	the hackfest s a great way to make people involved especially at this stage
  88 Sep 07 22:16:47 <SFD_Fred>	it should be easier to get sponsors and get all the GNOME contributing companies to send their developers
  89 Sep 07 22:17:14 <pockey_lam>	since we are thinking of which city should it be, that's why we invited all of you to join us to give us insights
  90 Sep 07 22:17:25 <utian>	march 2011 is gonna be first hack fest ever?
  91 Sep 07 22:17:36 <pockey_lam>	utian, yeah, in asia 
  92 Sep 07 22:17:43 <wers>	utian, for GNOME.Asia, at least
  93 Sep 07 22:17:45 <pockey_lam>	utian, that's really grant
  94 Sep 07 22:17:51 <pockey_lam>	for GNOME :)
  95 Sep 07 22:17:54 <emily>	first question, will the hackfest = GNOME.Asia 2011 ? 
  96 Sep 07 22:18:01 <pockey_lam>	emily, yes :)
  97 Sep 07 22:18:04 <pockey_lam>	emily, should be 
  98 Sep 07 22:18:15 <utian>	emily, yeah thats also my question
  99 Sep 07 22:18:29 <emily>	If we want to joint meeting with FOSS.in, then could be FOSS.In 2012 ? 
 100 Sep 07 22:18:33 <pockey_lam>	emily, that's a great opportunity to bring GNOME.Asia to the next level
 101 Sep 07 22:18:37 <pockey_lam>	we should take this opportunity
 102 Sep 07 22:18:44 <emily>	i agree 
 103 Sep 07 22:18:47 <abharath>	emily: Foss.in is Dec 15 this year
 104 Sep 07 22:19:01 <pockey_lam>	emily, so if we make the hackfest, that should be GNOME.Asia
 105 Sep 07 22:19:01 <wers>	let's just avoid turning this into a duplicate of GUADEC, because GNOME.Asia has its own goals
 106 Sep 07 22:19:08 <pockey_lam>	wers, yeah
 107 Sep 07 22:19:15 <SFD_Fred>	emily: could be 1 or 2 extra days after those 5 days
 108 Sep 07 22:19:17 <wers>	if we're inviting the same core contributors, we might end up with a guadec
 109 Sep 07 22:19:22 <SFD_Fred>	something for the public
 110 Sep 07 22:19:35 <pockey_lam>	yeah, we need developers from Asia
 111 Sep 07 22:19:46 <wers>	pockey_lam, that's right
 112 Sep 07 22:19:47 <pockey_lam>	more developers from Asia
 113 Sep 07 22:19:50 <emily>	So a hackfest for 5 days and pre/post 2 days events ? 
 114 Sep 07 22:19:52 <abharath>	Is there a GNOME 3 schedule already? the hard code freeze etc
 115 Sep 07 22:20:08 <wers>	that's what makes this one unique. involving contributors in asia to shape the future of GNOME 3
 116 Sep 07 22:20:22 <wers>	it's scheduled for March, atm
 117 Sep 07 22:20:44 <SFD_Fred>	abharath: well yes Brian metioned it should be in March
 118 Sep 07 22:21:02 <abharath>	right so what;s the main objective for this hackfest? 
 119 Sep 07 22:21:03 <abharath>	1) Celebrate the release of GNOME 3
 120 Sep 07 22:21:08 <pockey_lam>	so we can plan for March... at this moment
 121 Sep 07 22:21:14 <SFD_Fred>	but could be delayed by 1-2 weeks maybe...
 122 Sep 07 22:21:29 <abharath>	2) Give people a platform to contribute on core issues just before hard freeze and then celebrate it?
 123 Sep 07 22:21:30 <SFD_Fred>	abharath: no, launch GNOME 3
 124 Sep 07 22:21:38 <abharath>	cool thanks :)
 125 Sep 07 22:21:57 <SFD_Fred>	it's the week before the launch.. where dev work to finish everything
 126 Sep 07 22:22:09 <SFD_Fred>	or the week of the launch.. depends how you look at it
 127 Sep 07 22:22:20 <wers>	nice. GNOME.Asia will be the biggest GNOME 3.0 release party. haha
 128 Sep 07 22:22:28 <emily>	abharath: also could be a marketing hackfest to celebrate GNOME 3.0 
 129 Sep 07 22:22:31 <SFD_Fred>	so you get all those top developers which is a great motivation for anyone else in Asia to come and help, talk to them
 130 Sep 07 22:22:38 <abharath>	SFD_Fred: right. Makes sense to invite more people to try out GNOME3 then
 131 Sep 07 22:22:47 <abharath>	emily: exactly :) that makes great sense
 132 Sep 07 22:23:21 <SFD_Fred>	abharath: and then you probably schedule another day as a conference to explain stuff to normal people or wannabe GTK developers and companies
 133 Sep 07 22:23:24 <emily>	<SFD_Fred>: There might more marketing people than developers for this hackfest, since dev's work should done before the release 
 134 Sep 07 22:23:30 <andika>	will it be useful since we will be in code freeze?
 135 Sep 07 22:23:41 <SFD_Fred>	useful?
 136 Sep 07 22:23:44 <andika>	I mean, what can we hack away?
 137 Sep 07 22:23:54 <andika>	something for Gnome 3.1?
 138 Sep 07 22:24:00 <wers>	it's going to be on top of gnome 3.0
 139 Sep 07 22:24:03 <emily>	marketing hackfest andika
 140 Sep 07 22:24:19 <abharath>	SFD_Fred: I think that would be the most important thing from this hackfest, spread the word and strike it big. Help new users try it out on the spot
 141 Sep 07 22:24:25 <SFD_Fred>	andika: before any big release there seem to be the hackfest.. the question is do we want to have it in Asia or not
 142 Sep 07 22:24:31 <SFD_Fred>	andika: else it will happen elsewhere
 143 Sep 07 22:24:33 <emily>	like the website for GNOME 3.0, twitter, blog, screenshot, photos, documents etc. 
 144 Sep 07 22:24:35 <andika>	emily: I'm not sure I understand 'marketing hackfest'
 145 Sep 07 22:25:02 <SFD_Fred>	andika: even with code freeze you have a lot of technical work to do
 146 Sep 07 22:25:07 <wers>	see http://live.gnome.org/GnomeMarketing/MarketingHackfest2009
 147 Sep 07 22:25:27 <SFD_Fred>	andika: but i am sure brian could give more details as to what he envisioned 
 148 Sep 07 22:25:31 *	utian open wers's link
 149 Sep 07 22:26:12 <andika>	ok
 150 Sep 07 22:26:18 <andika>	done reading
 151 Sep 07 22:26:23 <SFD_Fred>	GNOME will manage the agenda. we get top developers sent by top FOSS companies for 5 days, then we market that and piggy back on it to have 1 or 2 extra days or 'normal conference'
 152 Sep 07 22:26:36 <andika>	but still can't imagine clearly enough
 153 Sep 07 22:27:48 <wers>	SFD_Fred, you mean 5 days of hackfest+2 days of 'normal conference' in one event?
 154 Sep 07 22:28:00 <SFD_Fred>	wers: yes.. or 5+1
 155 Sep 07 22:28:01 <andika>	maybe term usage is not same here in Indonesia. we usually use installfest instead
 156 Sep 07 22:28:10 <andika>	or maybe installfest is subset of hackfest?
 157 Sep 07 22:28:22 <SFD_Fred>	andika: it's not an installfest
 158 Sep 07 22:28:25 <emily>	installfest is subset of hackfest: good idea 
 159 Sep 07 22:28:39 <emily>	party  -- a better words 
 160 Sep 07 22:28:48 <abharath>	;)
 161 Sep 07 22:28:50 <SFD_Fred>	andika: it's some kind of internal work that GNOME developers (and most likely marketing people) need to do before/during the release
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 163 Sep 07 22:28:54 <pockey_lam>	i think there can be two approach
 164 Sep 07 22:29:00 <pockey_lam>	1) technical hackfest as fred said 
 165 Sep 07 22:29:07 <pockey_lam>	2) marketing hackfest as emily said
 166 Sep 07 22:29:17 <wers>	both can be done
 167 Sep 07 22:29:18 <pockey_lam>	+ 1 day of conference
 168 Sep 07 22:29:21 <SFD_Fred>	well that's how I understood Brian's intentions (1)
 169 Sep 07 22:29:23 <pockey_lam>	yeah, both can be done 
 170 Sep 07 22:29:33 <pockey_lam>	we can have both accommdated
 171 Sep 07 22:29:36 <utian>	so this asia hackfest "must" on march 2011?
 172 Sep 07 22:29:40 <wers>	I think, Brian intended it to be a technical hackfest
 173 Sep 07 22:29:45 <pockey_lam>	wers, i think so as well
 174 Sep 07 22:29:48 <abharath>	SFD_Fred: right. The only question on everyone's mind, what'll developers do when its hard code freeze for GNOME3 release. They can be invited just to market their stuff and help people get to know the product better
 175 Sep 07 22:29:59 <pockey_lam>	but we can also do a bit of marketing, why not :)
 176 Sep 07 22:30:06 <SFD_Fred>	but since you get some core GNOME people all together in one place we should 'use them' for a public performance such as a conference, discussion etc 
 177 Sep 07 22:30:10 <wers>	abharath, work on top of GNOME 3.0. new apps and stuff
 178 Sep 07 22:30:17 <wers>	but not touch the frozen code
 179 Sep 07 22:30:19 <abharath>	so how do we really rope in a lot of developers for this event
 180 Sep 07 22:30:20 <pockey_lam>	i agreed
 181 Sep 07 22:30:43 <SFD_Fred>	abharath: it's none of my concern.. GNOME tells me we need a place for 5 days to do some work. can you arrange?
 182 Sep 07 22:30:50 <SFD_Fred>	abharath: I say YES or NO
 183 Sep 07 22:30:51 <pockey_lam>	abharath, the GNOME foundation and gnome.asia committee will help to get developers
 184 Sep 07 22:31:07 <SFD_Fred>	utian: and yes it is for March... the scheduled release date of GNOME 3.0
 185 Sep 07 22:31:23 <pockey_lam>	yes, let's talk about the venue
 186 Sep 07 22:31:27 <abharath>	SFD_Fred: no problem :) I am just trying to set the requirements right for everyone
 187 Sep 07 22:31:27 <pockey_lam>	as brian asked where can we host
 188 Sep 07 22:31:39 <andika>	'need a place for 5 days', for how many people?
 189 Sep 07 22:31:51 <abharath>	right the number of people
 190 Sep 07 22:31:59 <pockey_lam>	70 people
 191 Sep 07 22:32:06 <pockey_lam>	we target around 70 people
 192 Sep 07 22:32:10 <andika>	and what kind of infrastructure will be needed?
 193 Sep 07 22:32:16 <pockey_lam>	1) Internet
 194 Sep 07 22:32:25 <pockey_lam>	2) a place with desk and seats
 195 Sep 07 22:32:25 <SFD_Fred>	University should be the easiest...
 196 Sep 07 22:32:29 <SFD_Fred>	cheapest as well
 197 Sep 07 22:32:32 <pockey_lam>	3) coffee served 
 198 Sep 07 22:32:39 <pockey_lam>	hehe
 199 Sep 07 22:32:45 <pockey_lam>	a nice place that is relaxing
 200 Sep 07 22:32:54 <pockey_lam>	accommodation not far and rather cheap
 201 Sep 07 22:33:14 <pockey_lam>	yep, cheap venue
 202 Sep 07 22:33:15 <utian>	pockey_lam, this 70 people are technical hacker are they?
 203 Sep 07 22:33:17 <pockey_lam>	as well
 204 Sep 07 22:33:26 <pockey_lam>	utian, yes, mainly technical hackers
 205 Sep 07 22:33:36 <pockey_lam>	utian, with some marketing people as well (like myself ) 
 206 Sep 07 22:33:37 <pockey_lam>	:)
 207 Sep 07 22:33:42 <utian>	pockey_lam, i see
 208 Sep 07 22:33:47 <utian>	:)
 209 Sep 07 22:33:49 <emily>	I was thinking about some company might host this hackfest, like Google's office or Oracle's offcie. (But, I only know the contact in China, however, we can not host inside China becasue of firewall )
 210 Sep 07 22:34:05 <andika>	how many rooms and how big? there will be parallel sessions I believe
 211 Sep 07 22:34:20 <wers>	andika, BiNus? UI? :)
 212 Sep 07 22:34:38 <abharath>	emily: I would like some university :) Easier to encourage more students to join
 213 Sep 07 22:34:51 <andika>	wers: could be :), but need to gather reqs first before asking my contacts there
 214 Sep 07 22:35:09 <SFD_Fred>	university is probably the most flexible about the configuration
 215 Sep 07 22:35:09 <pockey_lam>	andika, from 1 big room, up to 7 rooms , quite flexible
 216 Sep 07 22:35:58 <pockey_lam>	but better more than 1 room
 217 Sep 07 22:36:03 <wers>	1 big room for the hackfest, I suppose. we'll think about parallel sessions if we're going to pursue the 'typical conference' type of thing
 218 Sep 07 22:36:03 <pockey_lam>	a few rooms would be great 
 219 Sep 07 22:36:10 *	will-mobile (~yaaic@166.190.13.39) has joined #asia-summit
 220 Sep 07 22:36:45 <utian>	how about the "normal conference", how many people are hoping to attend?
 221 Sep 07 22:37:05 <wers>	I think, 200-300
 222 Sep 07 22:37:06 <SFD_Fred>	utian: the local team should know better
 223 Sep 07 22:37:16 <pockey_lam>	i think the same, around 200
 224 Sep 07 22:37:20 <SFD_Fred>	wers: yes.. 150-300 is ok
 225 Sep 07 22:37:22 <pockey_lam>	but yes, the local team should know better
 226 Sep 07 22:37:23 <utian>	wers, SFD_Fred ok
 227 Sep 07 22:37:38 <will-mobile>	morning / evening all. my apologies on being late. i am on my phone during commute so responses can be slow
 228 Sep 07 22:37:42 <wers>	but yeah, it mostly depends on the local attendees 
 229 Sep 07 22:37:47 <SFD_Fred>	utian: it really depends on the location, the marketing planned ahead of time to promote the conference
 230 Sep 07 22:37:47 <emily>	hi will-mobile
 231 Sep 07 22:38:03 <SFD_Fred>	hi will-mobile 
 232 Sep 07 22:38:16 <wers>	hi will-mobile :)
 233 Sep 07 22:38:24 <pockey_lam>	utian, if we can only find a venue for 100 people, we can also consider
 234 Sep 07 22:38:41 <pockey_lam>	utian, we just either invite less people or have them standing or sitting on the floor
 235 Sep 07 22:38:42 <SFD_Fred>	i don't mind sitting on the floor.. :)
 236 Sep 07 22:38:45 <pockey_lam>	exactly
 237 Sep 07 22:38:47 <pockey_lam>	me neither
 238 Sep 07 22:38:48 <emily>	March is quite close, we need to confirm the venue and ask for the budget plan from travel committee and GNOME foundation 
 239 Sep 07 22:39:08 <SFD_Fred>	so we need to know who is interested and willing to work on this
 240 Sep 07 22:39:17 <SFD_Fred>	the schedule is tight. it's quite some commitment
 241 Sep 07 22:39:21 <pockey_lam>	so our potential hosting places for this 5 days hackfest + 1 day conference are
 242 Sep 07 22:39:22 <abharath>	Sitting and hacking :) I love it :)
 243 Sep 07 22:39:33 <SFD_Fred>	one need to look for "the perfect place" and then prepare
 244 Sep 07 22:39:37 <emily>	hehe :) abharath
 245 Sep 07 22:39:45 <SFD_Fred>	and coffeeing
 246 Sep 07 22:39:50 <pockey_lam>	phillipines, india, indonesia, hong kong
 247 Sep 07 22:39:57 <SFD_Fred>	i might make a prune tart if people ask nicely ;)
 248 Sep 07 22:40:01 <emily>	four candidate places, cool 
 249 Sep 07 22:40:53 <pockey_lam>	but wers from Philippines told me they would rather host gnome.asia 2011 :)
 250 Sep 07 22:40:56 <wers>	I was discussing this with the Philippine Open Source Network. They're willing to do the leg work and proposed to do it in Boracay (white sand ftw). However, 2011 Q1 is too soon
 251 Sep 07 22:41:09 <wers>	pockey_lam, 2012 :D
 252 Sep 07 22:41:11 <pockey_lam>	wers, yeah, so you will do the 2012 
 253 Sep 07 22:41:12 <pockey_lam>	yeah
 254 Sep 07 22:41:13 <pockey_lam>	sorry
 255 Sep 07 22:41:15 <abharath>	pockey_lam: 2010 you mean?
 256 Sep 07 22:41:21 <abharath>	eeks 2012 :)
 257 Sep 07 22:41:22 <utian>	question again, to make me clear, so this hackfest is the next form of Gnome.Asia? or it different event between hackfest and gnome.asia?
 258 Sep 07 22:41:44 <wers>	utian, GNOME.Asia 2011 is going to be a hackfest
 259 Sep 07 22:41:44 <pockey_lam>	utian, same event
 260 Sep 07 22:41:53 <emily>	one year one event 
 261 Sep 07 22:41:56 <wers>	that's going to be *the* GNOME.Asia event of the year
 262 Sep 07 22:41:57 <SFD_Fred>	utian: different.. you'll get 2 in 1 actually
 263 Sep 07 22:42:05 <SFD_Fred>	hackfest+GNOME.Asia
 264 Sep 07 22:42:17 <SFD_Fred>	5+1
 265 Sep 07 22:42:40 <emily>	souds good, Fred 
 266 Sep 07 22:42:47 <utian>	all, i see
 267 Sep 07 22:43:25 <pockey_lam>	so up till now, do we have enough information to try to find a venue? :)
 268 Sep 07 22:43:32 <wers>	my concern with that is it would be difficult to attend for people who weren't sponsored by their employers. I'm not sure if my employer will let me leave work for a week since this isn't work-related
 269 Sep 07 22:43:37 <SFD_Fred>	solves the sponsoring and speaker issues as well
 270 Sep 07 22:43:38 <emily>	our task after this IRC meeting is finding and confirm venue asap 
 271 Sep 07 22:44:00 <SFD_Fred>	wers: there will be gnome travel subsidies as usual
 272 Sep 07 22:44:03 <abharath>	pockey_lam: so the checklist for the venue would be the same one as that of the bidding page?
 273 Sep 07 22:44:08 <SFD_Fred>	wers: and based on the funds we can raise
 274 Sep 07 22:44:30 <pockey_lam>	abharath, yeah, plus the things we just said: 
 275 Sep 07 22:44:38 <pockey_lam>	1) Internet
 276 Sep 07 22:44:38 <pockey_lam>	2) Accommondation not far and cheap
 277 Sep 07 22:44:38 <pockey_lam>	3) a few rooms 
 278 Sep 07 22:44:38 <pockey_lam>	4) coffee served
 279 Sep 07 22:44:38 <pockey_lam>	5) relaxing
 280 Sep 07 22:44:48 <pockey_lam>	6) seats and desks
 281 Sep 07 22:44:50 <pockey_lam>	or tables
 282 Sep 07 22:45:20 <abharath>	for all the others who aren;t aware of the checklist, http://gnome.asia/en/p/about/checklist/
 283 Sep 07 22:45:34 <pockey_lam>	abharath, thanks!
 284 Sep 07 22:45:44 <abharath>	most of them apply, not the conference specific ones
 285 Sep 07 22:45:58 <pockey_lam>	abharath, yeah
 286 Sep 07 22:46:12 <pockey_lam>	abharath, but since hackfest also, so we need the 6 points just mentioned as well
 287 Sep 07 22:46:36 <abharath>	pockey_lam: right. In addition to the ones that you mentioned
 288 Sep 07 22:46:43 <pockey_lam>	abharath, yep
 289 Sep 07 22:47:20 <pockey_lam>	so, now we have abharath utian pockey_lam helping to look for venues for 2012 gnome.asia hackfest ? 
 290 Sep 07 22:47:30 <emily>	2011 
 291 Sep 07 22:47:37 <abharath>	emily: ;)
 292 Sep 07 22:47:38 <pockey_lam>	i m responsible to talk to universities in Hong Kong
 293 Sep 07 22:47:49 <pockey_lam>	abharath, can you help to talk to those in india? 
 294 Sep 07 22:47:58 <pockey_lam>	utian, can you help to talk to those in indonesia?
 295 Sep 07 22:47:59 <abharath>	I'll do my bit with universities in India
 296 Sep 07 22:47:59 <SFD_Fred>	utian: where are you based?
 297 Sep 07 22:48:02 <abharath>	pockey_lam: yes :)
 298 Sep 07 22:48:11 <pockey_lam>	abharath, thanks! 
 299 Sep 07 22:48:13 <SFD_Fred>	utian: which city
 300 Sep 07 22:48:13 <utian>	pockey_lam, i can
 301 Sep 07 22:48:21 <utian>	SFD_Fred, indonesia, bogor
 302 Sep 07 22:48:26 <utian>	it near jakarta
 303 Sep 07 22:48:33 <abharath>	I never actually thought of universities before this meet. I'll talk to some of my Deans this weekend
 304 Sep 07 22:48:44 <emily>	diki is in indonesia, do you know him? utian ? 
 305 Sep 07 22:48:51 <pockey_lam>	for gnome.asia it's great that we have so many contacts now, so one year one city, that would be great, great to have wers utian abharath joined our committee
 306 Sep 07 22:49:09 <utian>	emily, which diki?
 307 Sep 07 22:49:11 <utian>	:)
 308 Sep 07 22:49:16 <SFD_Fred>	utian: Indonesia I remembered.. just didn't know where exactly
 309 Sep 07 22:49:28 <emily>	artist for the logo of GNOME.Asia 
 310 Sep 07 22:49:36 <utian>	SFD_Fred, okay i'll find out
 311 Sep 07 22:49:39 <emily>	diki design the logo and T-shirt for GNOME 
 312 Sep 07 22:49:51 <SFD_Fred>	utian: now i have a better idea.. thanks
 313 Sep 07 22:49:51 <andika>	emily: diki stays in Bandung
 314 Sep 07 22:49:53 <andika>	like me
 315 Sep 07 22:49:59 <pockey_lam>	utian, so which city will you most likely think the GNOME.Asia will host if it is in Indonesia?
 316 Sep 07 22:50:09 <pockey_lam>	utian, or potential cities?
 317 Sep 07 22:50:23 <pockey_lam>	andika, so which city will you most likely think the GNOME.Asia will host if it is in India?
 318 Sep 07 22:50:30 <andika>	pockey_lam: I think it can be Jakarta, Bogor, or Bandung
 319 Sep 07 22:50:36 <utian>	pockey_lam, i think it's around jabodetabek (Jakarta Bogor Depok Tanggerang Bekasi)
 320 Sep 07 22:50:41 <pockey_lam>	andika, thanks!
 321 Sep 07 22:50:43 <utian>	or Bandung
 322 Sep 07 22:50:45 <wers>	utian, is there an airport in bogor? I believe, international flights have to land on jakarta then travel by land, correct?
 323 Sep 07 22:51:01 <abharath>	In India, either Bangalore or Mysore
 324 Sep 07 22:51:14 <SFD_Fred>	wers: Boracay has an international airport?
 325 Sep 07 22:51:15 <andika>	wers: yes
 326 Sep 07 22:51:17 <pockey_lam>	utian, thanks
 327 Sep 07 22:51:18 <abharath>	others might be difficult, but I'll try some others
 328 Sep 07 22:51:19 <utian>	wers, jakarta airport to bogor aproximately about 2 hours
 329 Sep 07 22:51:19 <wers>	SFD_Fred, it does
 330 Sep 07 22:51:27 <andika>	wers: Jakarta - Bogor is only around 1 hr
 331 Sep 07 22:51:44 <utian>	2 hours if you get traffic jam :D
 332 Sep 07 22:51:47 <pockey_lam>	abharath, tanks
 333 Sep 07 22:51:51 <andika>	yeah right :D
 334 Sep 07 22:51:52 <SFD_Fred>	wers: didn t know.. i thought you had to transit through Manila then boat, bus, tricycle and buffalo 
 335 Sep 07 22:52:13 <wers>	SFD_Fred, boracay is seas away from Manila. ahehe
 336 Sep 07 22:52:20 <andika>	Jakarta - Bandung is ideally 2 hrs, 3-4 hrs if includes traffic jam
 337 Sep 07 22:52:23 <abharath>	after this meet, can someone compile a list? A list of things needed from the venue, the target audience, the coll stuff we gonna do, etc
 338 Sep 07 22:52:31 <pockey_lam>	can we try to find a city with international airport? :)
 339 Sep 07 22:52:46 <SFD_Fred>	1 or 2 hours drive is ok i think
 340 Sep 07 22:52:57 <wers>	SFD_Fred, if you know what to ride
 341 Sep 07 22:53:01 <pockey_lam>	no problem
 342 Sep 07 22:53:03 <SFD_Fred>	it's really standard from most International airport to any capital actually
 343 Sep 07 22:53:05 <abharath>	lol
 344 Sep 07 22:53:14 <pockey_lam>	ok ok, 1 - 2 hrs are acceptable :)
 345 Sep 07 22:53:42 <emily>	one question if we host in univeristy 
 346 Sep 07 22:53:43 <andika>	pockey_lam: Bandung has international airport, but only for not so big planes
 347 Sep 07 22:53:44 <pockey_lam>	so any point / question to ask?
 348 Sep 07 22:53:47 <pockey_lam>	for the venue? 
 349 Sep 07 22:53:58 <emily>	Can we book some many rooms in univeristy for 5 days +1 days ? 
 350 Sep 07 22:54:08 <pockey_lam>	emily, that's why we need to check
 351 Sep 07 22:54:12 <pockey_lam>	emily, we have three chances....
 352 Sep 07 22:54:14 <emily>	OK
 353 Sep 07 22:54:16 <pockey_lam>	emily, three places ;)
 354 Sep 07 22:54:19 <SFD_Fred>	yes during school year it could be a challenge
 355 Sep 07 22:54:22 <pockey_lam>	countries
 356 Sep 07 22:54:31 <pockey_lam>	not necessary universities
 357 Sep 07 22:54:33 <pockey_lam>	we can consider other places
 358 Sep 07 22:54:40 <pockey_lam>	even a motel 
 359 Sep 07 22:54:44 <pockey_lam>	hahaha
 360 Sep 07 22:54:49 <abharath>	:D
 361 Sep 07 22:54:57 <emily>	if not expensive, we can host in hotel 
 362 Sep 07 22:55:03 <SFD_Fred>	with a swimming pool then...
 363 Sep 07 22:55:11 <SFD_Fred>	a guest house
 364 Sep 07 22:55:11 <pockey_lam>	yeah
 365 Sep 07 22:55:18 <wers>	Mmmmm
 366 Sep 07 22:55:35 <abharath>	aah nice suggestions :)
 367 Sep 07 22:55:41 <SFD_Fred>	well whatever place clean enough, with internet and the capacity required
 368 Sep 07 22:55:53 <SFD_Fred>	eventually we can move to a bigger place for the last day
 369 Sep 07 22:55:53 <pockey_lam>	yep
 370 Sep 07 22:55:53 <emily>	check with univeristy first, then companies, then motel/ hotel 
 371 Sep 07 22:55:55 <wers>	SFD_Fred's house
 372 Sep 07 22:56:01 <pockey_lam>	yep
 373 Sep 07 22:56:02 <abharath>	SFD_Fred: +1
 374 Sep 07 22:56:11 <SFD_Fred>	wers: internet just sucks.. else i would happily do it
 375 Sep 07 22:56:23 <utian>	my first target is universities that located in Jakarta, Depok or Bogor, because its feasible place include the distance from airport
 376 Sep 07 22:56:25 <wers>	aww. he found an excuse. haha
 377 Sep 07 22:56:28 <SFD_Fred>	next to the sea, you can go fish your lunch
 378 Sep 07 22:56:39 <pockey_lam>	love the sea
 379 Sep 07 22:56:42 <wers>	utian, Mal Ambasador :D 
 380 Sep 07 22:56:59 <pockey_lam>	2) sponsors
 381 Sep 07 22:57:03 <utian>	wers, it could be, but mal is not university :D
 382 Sep 07 22:57:12 <wers>	utian, just kidding ;)
 383 Sep 07 22:57:14 <abharath>	and with universities, the security issues need to be handled too
 384 Sep 07 22:57:18 <andika>	wers: whoa, what do you want to buy there? ;)
 385 Sep 07 22:57:21 <abharath>	for the last day atleast
 386 Sep 07 22:57:35 <pockey_lam>	any chance to get local sponsors as well in india or indonesia?
 387 Sep 07 22:57:41 <wers>	andika, a lot. :) 
 388 Sep 07 22:57:43 <pockey_lam>	or Hong kong (i ask my self :)
 389 Sep 07 22:57:45 <emily>	novell indian 
 390 Sep 07 22:57:49 <pockey_lam>	hehe
 391 Sep 07 22:58:07 <abharath>	emily: In India, I doubt them :D
 392 Sep 07 22:58:08 <SFD_Fred>	security?
 393 Sep 07 22:58:13 <abharath>	but I should ask :)
 394 Sep 07 22:58:30 <emily>	Novell can send you guys 
 395 Sep 07 22:58:57 <pockey_lam>	but we need to have money to rent the venue :)
 396 Sep 07 22:58:59 <abharath>	SFD_Fred: at the entrance I meant. Validating the registrations
 397 Sep 07 22:59:01 <pockey_lam>	and pay for coffee, hehe
 398 Sep 07 22:59:20 <SFD_Fred>	abharath: ahh... you scared me. i though there were some  terrorist or ... 
 399 Sep 07 22:59:45 <abharath>	SFD_Fred: haha :) nope :) Just a myth :)
 400 Sep 07 22:59:46 <pockey_lam>	so we also need to consider, if we host the gnome.asia hackfest , can we find some local sponsors to cover the cost
 401 Sep 07 23:00:04 <utian>	pockey_lam, its difficult to get sponsor from international IT companies here, because especially me dont have contact name of them
 402 Sep 07 23:00:18 <abharath>	I am sure SFD_Fred ould be shit scared every day now :P
 403 Sep 07 23:00:27 <SFD_Fred>	utian: local ones?
 404 Sep 07 23:00:41 <SFD_Fred>	abharath: maybe wild girls looking for geeks?
 405 Sep 07 23:00:48 <utian>	but for local sponsors such as internet access its very possible
 406 Sep 07 23:00:52 <SFD_Fred>	abharath: so many possible dangers...
 407 Sep 07 23:01:02 <abharath>	SFD_Fred: well I am here, so all the good ones are taken :P
 408 Sep 07 23:01:15 <SFD_Fred>	abharath: haha.. ok
 409 Sep 07 23:01:20 *	sakana (~sakana@221-120-10-186.dynamic.hinet.net) has joined #asia-summit
 410 Sep 07 23:01:22 <pockey_lam>	utian, noted, depends on the budget, i think the committee can help to get international sponsors, but most likely the budget will be like 5K USD 
 411 Sep 07 23:01:23 <SFD_Fred>	abharath: so I'm safe you mean?
 412 Sep 07 23:01:31 <emily>	hi max 
 413 Sep 07 23:01:33 <pockey_lam>	utian, if hosting in indonesia is about this budget, it's doable :)
 414 Sep 07 23:01:37 <sakana>	sorry for the late
 415 Sep 07 23:01:42 <abharath>	SFD_Fred: you wanna compete wit me you mean? ;)
 416 Sep 07 23:01:43 <utian>	SFD_Fred, local company is possible
 417 Sep 07 23:01:47 <emily>	sakana: welcome 
 418 Sep 07 23:02:00 <pockey_lam>	sakana, it's okay, i wrote meeting notes, we are now talking about the venues of GNOME.Asia hackfest 2012
 419 Sep 07 23:02:02 <sakana>	we just finish ^^
 420 Sep 07 23:02:02 <abharath>	naah on a serious note, no issues in Bangalore
 421 Sep 07 23:02:15 <pockey_lam>	utian, so local companies are possible :)
 422 Sep 07 23:02:45 <emily>	<sakana: would you please shortly introduce yourself ? 
 423 Sep 07 23:02:46 <SFD_Fred>	utian: we would help write a call for sponsorship document and send it to contacts we can find
 424 Sep 07 23:02:50 <emily>	to everyone here 
 425 Sep 07 23:03:00 <SFD_Fred>	utian: but it's true that having local contacts is important
 426 Sep 07 23:03:03 <utian>	pockey_lam, i'll do the best :)
 427 Sep 07 23:03:10 <pockey_lam>	utian, great
 428 Sep 07 23:03:16 <abharath>	ok time to tweet about this :) to see if I am alone or I have any helping hands :D
 429 Sep 07 23:03:23 <pockey_lam>	abharath, how about in india, what do u think getting local sponsors ?
 430 Sep 07 23:03:27 <utian>	SFD_Fred, ok thats gonna help us
 431 Sep 07 23:03:33 <abharath>	Am I permitted to do that? or is this an undercover operation?
 432 Sep 07 23:03:44 <abharath>	pockey_lam: some of them should be very much possible
 433 Sep 07 23:03:46 <sakana>	I am sakana the guy who would like to org the GNOME-TW Users group, and I am an instrator
 434 Sep 07 23:03:58 <sakana>	^^
 435 Sep 07 23:04:00 <abharath>	I'll catch the foss.in organizers and enquire with them
 436 Sep 07 23:04:31 <emily>	sakana: we will send out the IRC minutes, you will catch up them 
 437 Sep 07 23:04:49 <sakana>	emily, thanks you
 438 Sep 07 23:04:52 <wers>	hi sakana :)
 439 Sep 07 23:05:05 <pockey_lam>	abharath, great! 
 440 Sep 07 23:05:07 <wers>	so you're a part of COSCUP, I assume
 441 Sep 07 23:05:17 <pockey_lam>	so, emily and I will prepare a call for host soon ! 
 442 Sep 07 23:05:21 <sakana>	wers, hi ^__^
 443 Sep 07 23:05:38 <emily>	sure, pockey_lam 
 444 Sep 07 23:05:41 <abharath>	pockey_lam: soon == ?
 445 Sep 07 23:05:51 <pockey_lam>	and abharath utian andika , you are all invited to submit proposal :)
 446 Sep 07 23:06:00 <abharath>	pockey_lam: yup :)
 447 Sep 07 23:06:04 <pockey_lam>	soon =  in 2 weeks
 448 Sep 07 23:06:07 <pockey_lam>	but you guys know everything we know
 449 Sep 07 23:06:11 <pockey_lam>	so you can start to prepare them :)
 450 Sep 07 23:06:14 <abharath>	ok 2 weeks sounds good enough
 451 Sep 07 23:06:17 <abharath>	:D
 452 Sep 07 23:06:21 <sakana>	wers,  I meet emily at COSCUP / GNOME.Asia  <----
 453 Sep 07 23:06:27 <utian>	pockey_lam, ok
 454 Sep 07 23:07:09 <pockey_lam>	:) 
 455 Sep 07 23:07:14 <abharath>	Show me code, I'll fix it :) Organize an event, I'll surely need to bite into the experience of each and every one of you :)
 456 Sep 07 23:07:27 <wers>	sakana, then we might have met too :)
 457 Sep 07 23:07:30 <pockey_lam>	abharath, you are being humble
 458 Sep 07 23:07:32 <emily>	abharath utian andika, if March is too close and a rush in your country , we can planning for GNOME.Asia 2012, 2013, ... 
 459 Sep 07 23:07:34 *	andika will support utian in proposal preparation; no need to make 2 Indonesian proposals :D
 460 Sep 07 23:07:46 <pockey_lam>	andika, thanks :)
 461 Sep 07 23:08:30 <emily>	<abharath>: you are already good enough !!! 
 462 Sep 07 23:09:00 <pockey_lam>	so, if there is anything else need to ask about gnome.asia hackfest 2012
 463 Sep 07 23:09:06 <pockey_lam>	u can always ask us by email 
 464 Sep 07 23:09:31 <utian>	andika, thank you, pak :)
 465 Sep 07 23:09:33 <emily>	or ask in asia-summit@gnome.org
 466 Sep 07 23:09:37 <pockey_lam>	already 1 hour...
 467 Sep 07 23:09:39 <abharath>	emily: you ppl scare me now :D
 468 Sep 07 23:09:41 <pockey_lam>	i will skip two agenda items
 469 Sep 07 23:09:56 <pockey_lam>	Start a new Mailing list and IRC channel for GNOME.Asia (not
 470 Sep 07 23:09:56 <pockey_lam>	> > committee ones)  =. emily and myself should take care of it 
 471 Sep 07 23:10:01 *	andika_slow has quit (leaving)
 472 Sep 07 23:10:11 <pockey_lam>	GNOME.Asia website: building new contents => we can have a separate meeting to talk about this one
 473 Sep 07 23:10:27 <pockey_lam>	let's spend 10 mins to talk about Discuss about the event box / kit for local users group ? 
 474 Sep 07 23:10:36 *	abharath claps for the initiatives
 475 Sep 07 23:10:37 <utian>	emily, i think march its low foss conference season here
 476 Sep 07 23:11:27 <emily>	<utian: yes, march is a quite season
 477 Sep 07 23:11:43 <emily>	Good thing is there is no confict event for GNNOME 
 478 Sep 07 23:11:54 <emily>	in 2010, GUADEC and GNOME.Asia are too close 
 479 Sep 07 23:12:20 <pockey_lam>	i also think Q 1 is a good season for GNOME.Asia 
 480 Sep 07 23:12:24 <wers>	is there a sched already for the next GUADEC?
 481 Sep 07 23:12:35 <emily>	in berlin 
 482 Sep 07 23:12:39 <wers>	it's going to be with KDE again, right?
 483 Sep 07 23:12:42 <wers>	oooh
 484 Sep 07 23:12:43 <emily>	yes 
 485 Sep 07 23:12:46 <abharath>	wers: ;)
 486 Sep 07 23:12:50 <wers>	when?
 487 Sep 07 23:12:55 <emily>	august 
 488 Sep 07 23:13:25 <emily>	For the event box, we can talk about it in email 
 489 Sep 07 23:13:30 <pockey_lam>	emily, ok
 490 Sep 07 23:13:44 <wers>	what else do we have for tonight?
 491 Sep 07 23:13:49 <pockey_lam>	wers, nothing then :)
 492 Sep 07 23:13:58 <pockey_lam>	any other question / point?
 493 Sep 07 23:14:01 <wers>	when's the next meeting?
 494 Sep 07 23:14:06 <emily>	general idea is local team can design their own event box in their country and foundation will pay the fee rather than sending a event box 
 495 Sep 07 23:14:08 <pockey_lam>	next tuesday
 496 Sep 07 23:14:15 <pockey_lam>	is it okay for everybody?
 497 Sep 07 23:14:18 <pockey_lam>	same time
 498 Sep 07 23:14:32 <emily>	OK for me 
 499 Sep 07 23:14:35 <pockey_lam>	okay for me
 500 Sep 07 23:14:42 <abharath>	no problems here
 501 Sep 07 23:14:44 <sakana>	ok for me
 502 Sep 07 23:14:50 <pockey_lam>	wers, abharath utian sakana will-mobile ?
 503 Sep 07 23:14:52 <wers>	ok for me :)
 504 Sep 07 23:14:55 <wers>	same time, I suppose
 505 Sep 07 23:15:08 <pockey_lam>	andika?
 506 Sep 07 23:15:12 <pockey_lam>	yes, same time
 507 Sep 07 23:15:15 <pockey_lam>	i will send reminder 
 508 Sep 07 23:15:15 *	lakhil (~lakhil@117.192.12.85) has joined #asia-summit
 509 Sep 07 23:15:17 <utian>	pockey_lam, which mailing list to discuss about it?
 510 Sep 07 23:15:22 <andika>	not sure :(
 511 Sep 07 23:15:31 <pockey_lam>	asia-summit@gnome.org
 512 Sep 07 23:15:32 <andika>	I will be highly mobile next week
 513 Sep 07 23:15:32 <abharath>	ah ah the savior is here :)
 514 Sep 07 23:15:36 <andika>	holiday
 515 Sep 07 23:15:49 <pockey_lam>	andika, utian can either one of you join? ;)
 516 Sep 07 23:16:02 <abharath>	lakhil: we just now decided Bangalore is the place and the venue is your home :)
 517 Sep 07 23:16:10 <pockey_lam>	lakhil, hi hi 
 518 Sep 07 23:16:16 <emily>	haha 
 519 Sep 07 23:16:20 <pockey_lam>	lakhil, can you shortly introduce yourself?
 520 Sep 07 23:16:24 <emily>	abharath>: you are funny 
 521 Sep 07 23:16:36 <emily>	lakhil: hello 
 522 Sep 07 23:16:37 <lakhil>	hello all
 523 Sep 07 23:16:57 <lakhil>	sorry for coming late :(
 524 Sep 07 23:17:04 <wers>	hi lakhil 
 525 Sep 07 23:17:08 <pockey_lam>	lakhil, it;s okay, i wrote meeting notes, will send email to you
 526 Sep 07 23:17:39 <lakhil>	pockey_lam, i work on Evolution as QA, i do bug triaging in gnome bugzilla
 527 Sep 07 23:18:07 <pockey_lam>	lakhil, cool! i kept note on the meeting minutes for everybody introduction
 528 Sep 07 23:18:30 <lakhil>	abharath, i am moving to Andaman shortly, jfyi ;-)
 529 Sep 07 23:18:38 <lakhil>	pockey_lam, ah..cool
 530 Sep 07 23:18:45 <abharath>	lakhil: cool nice choice for the venue :)
 531 Sep 07 23:18:51 <utian>	pockey_lam, i'll join the mailing list
 532 Sep 07 23:19:03 <abharath>	I think SFD_Fred went to fish by the sea ;)
 533 Sep 07 23:19:13 <pockey_lam>	haha
 534 Sep 07 23:19:19 <andika>	utian: he asked if you can join next week meeting, some time
 535 Sep 07 23:19:19 <SFD_Fred>	abharath: i don't eat fish.. ;-)
 536 Sep 07 23:19:32 <abharath>	SFD_Fred: fish for us I meant :P
 537 Sep 07 23:19:45 <sakana>	SFD_Fred, thanks for not eat me ^^
 538 Sep 07 23:20:10 <pockey_lam>	by the way, since we have so many people
 539 Sep 07 23:20:33 <abharath>	pockey_lam: sure. I'll wait for the minutes. Upload it to a wiki page probably or just exchange emails?
 540 Sep 07 23:20:42 <SFD_Fred>	abharath: haha.. i see
 541 Sep 07 23:20:43 <pockey_lam>	anybody wanna to help to write meeting notes? ;) 
 542 Sep 07 23:20:51 <pockey_lam>	as it's difficult for me to host the chat and write notes at the same time 
 543 Sep 07 23:20:55 <pockey_lam>	i mean for next time
 544 Sep 07 23:20:57 <utian>	andika, o sory yeah next tuesday i can
 545 Sep 07 23:21:03 <pockey_lam>	wers, do u ? ;)
 546 Sep 07 23:21:27 <wers>	pockey_lam, do I? 
 547 Sep 07 23:21:31 <lakhil>	pockey_lam, instead of notes, we can just post full logs, won't it work well ?
 548 Sep 07 23:21:34 <wers>	you mean write notes?
 549 Sep 07 23:21:44 <abharath>	pockey_lam: don't ask lakhil to ;) he'll just post them in his bug reports :D
 550 Sep 07 23:21:45 <pockey_lam>	anybody volunteer to write meeting minutes 
 551 Sep 07 23:21:52 <pockey_lam>	abharath, LOL
 552 Sep 07 23:21:56 <emily>	lakhil: minute will digest content and AI is more clear 
 553 Sep 07 23:22:04 <pockey_lam>	we just need to write AI 
 554 Sep 07 23:22:07 <pockey_lam>	action items
 555 Sep 07 23:22:14 <utian>	o i forget to tell you all, in indonesia this week are gonna be long holiday
 556 Sep 07 23:22:29 <emily>	pockey will send this time, you will see the tempate 
 557 Sep 07 23:22:35 <lakhil>	emily, pockey_lam ah..k but do we post complete log some where ?
 558 Sep 07 23:22:52 <emily>	lakhil: just in mail list 
 559 Sep 07 23:23:04 <emily>	reminder everyone to finish their AI before next meeting 
 560 Sep 07 23:23:05 <lakhil>	okies
 561 Sep 07 23:23:05 *	SFD_Fred going to cut myself another slice of tart
 562 Sep 07 23:23:06 <utian>	so the progress to prepare it from me this week will not significant
 563 Sep 07 23:23:08 <pockey_lam>	lakhil, yeah, i will save as file and put in the list, in the future, WILL will help us to post it in the site? 
 564 Sep 07 23:23:12 <pockey_lam>	will-mobile, hey
 565 Sep 07 23:23:14 <pockey_lam>	will-mobile, can you
 566 Sep 07 23:23:15 <pockey_lam>	?
 567 Sep 07 23:23:46 <pockey_lam>	utian, no problem , just to digest 
 568 Sep 07 23:23:48 <emily>	That's easy for will 
 569 Sep 07 23:24:00 <pockey_lam>	will-mobile, emily, good 
 570 Sep 07 23:24:23 <pockey_lam>	AI : emily / Will to post log online and send us the link
 571 Sep 07 23:24:58 <pockey_lam>	hehe, if anybody wanna volunteer later, the post is always open
 572 Sep 07 23:25:00 <pockey_lam>	:)
 573 Sep 07 23:25:02 <abharath>	aah cool all moderators for asia-summit list are here :)
 574 Sep 07 23:25:07 <pockey_lam>	thank you very much guys 
 575 Sep 07 23:25:08 <utian>	but to prepare writing proposal its no problem
 576 Sep 07 23:25:14 <pockey_lam>	it's a very productive meeting
 577 Sep 07 23:25:24 <emily>	good start 
 578 Sep 07 23:25:29 <abharath>	+1
 579 Sep 07 23:25:31 <pockey_lam>	utian, yep 
 580 Sep 07 23:25:38 <sakana>	+1
 581 Sep 07 23:25:45 <pockey_lam>	utian, and u can ask questions next week 
 582 Sep 07 23:25:51 <SFD_Fred>	so who's the committee secretary?
 583 Sep 07 23:26:07 *	abharath looks at pockey_lam ;)
 584 Sep 07 23:26:17 <emily>	pockey is the host 
 585 Sep 07 23:26:18 <pockey_lam>	abharath, hahaa
 586 Sep 07 23:26:25 <pockey_lam>	abharath, you are naughty
 587 Sep 07 23:26:28 <abharath>	then /me looks at emily :D
 588 Sep 07 23:26:28 <SFD_Fred>	well if no one volunteer we'll change at every meeting
 589 Sep 07 23:26:43 <utian>	pockey_lam, is it asia-summit@gnome.org and asia-summit-list@gnome.org are same mailing list?
 590 Sep 07 23:26:57 <pockey_lam>	asia-summit-list@gnome.org is the right one, wait
 591 Sep 07 23:26:58 <andika>	asia-summit@gnome.org is different to asia-summit-list@gnome.org?
 592 Sep 07 23:27:06 <andika>	ah
 593 Sep 07 23:27:12 <andika>	you can read my mind
 594 Sep 07 23:27:13 <andika>	hahahaha
 595 Sep 07 23:27:17 <pockey_lam>	asia-summit-list@gnome.org is the right one
 596 Sep 07 23:27:22 <emily>	asia-summit-list@gnome.org
 597 Sep 07 23:28:06 <utian>	ok then, thanks all
 598 Sep 07 23:28:10 <emily>	good nite every one 
 599 Sep 07 23:28:18 <emily>	time to bed
 600 Sep 07 23:28:22 <sakana>	^^
 601 Sep 07 23:28:30 <sakana>	time to get down MRT
 602 Sep 07 23:28:34 <andika>	kthxbye
 603 Sep 07 23:28:38 *	andika (~andika@182.0.95.74) has left #asia-summit
 604 Sep 07 23:28:43 <wers>	g'niiiiiiiight
 605 Sep 07 23:28:43 <pockey_lam>	thanks guys and bye :)