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3 07:06:01 * Now talking on #a11y
4 07:06:33 <API> hi,
5 07:06:37 <API> sorry
6 07:06:39 <API> im late
7 07:07:12 <API> hmmm
8 07:07:24 <API> aleiva, are you in the office?
9 07:07:42 <mgorse> Hi
10 07:08:01 <API> mgorse, hi
11 07:10:36 <aleiva> API: yeah
12 07:10:51 <API> and joanie
13 07:11:04 <aleiva> API: joanie should be coming
14 07:11:15 <aleiva> API: he meet with juanje
15 07:11:24 <aleiva> API: s/he/she
16 07:12:00 <API> aleiva, ok, as far as I remember
17 07:12:12 <API> she wrote down some notes on our final AEGIS meeting
18 07:12:14 <API> anyway
19 07:12:31 <API> lets use the improvised agenda that I wrote yesterday
20 07:12:52 <API> (feel free anyone to suggest other topic=
21 07:12:53 <API> )
22 07:12:59 <API> 1. AEGIS report share feelings and plans
23 07:13:22 <API> just to comment that AEGIS hackfest, except for all the jinx things
24 07:13:30 <API> was good in my opinion
25 07:13:53 <API> and just some general conclusions
26 07:14:06 <API> 1. need to keep working towards gnome 3
27 07:14:18 <API> 2. some of the items of the list are (again) outdated
28 07:14:33 <API> 3. We need a roadmap (I will create a rough draft soon)
29 07:14:46 <API> 4. We need to decide if we need more hackfests the next year
30 07:15:02 * KeWang has quit (Leaving)
31 07:15:05 <API> although probably CSUN just in the middle of GNOME 3 is not a good moment
32 07:15:13 <API> ok, just a general summary
33 07:15:24 <API> someone wants to say something about AEGIS?
34 07:15:27 <API> (short please)
35 07:15:46 <API> Bryen, aleiva mgorse shaunm ?
36 07:16:00 <API> people that couldn't assist can also ask
37 07:16:10 <API> FlaPer87, eeejay etc.
38 07:16:13 * KeWang (~wangke@192.9.202.3) has joined #a11y
39 07:17:12 <aleiva> well, personally for me was a very positive experience, also a lot of opportunities there
40 07:18:14 <mgorse> I mostly worked on at-spi. Having Shaun there was really helpful--I have a better idea of what to do about documentation now
41 07:20:12 <API> well, as one of the following points is GNOME 3.0
42 07:20:31 <API> mgorse, I think that you can talk a little about what you did on the hackfest
43 07:20:41 <API> and your plan for the short-term related to at-spi2
44 07:21:07 <API> (more or less what you said the last day on hackfest)
45 07:21:50 <mgorse> I fixed a few performance issues, at which point I decided that it would probably be better to have a core C library implementing the AT side of at-spi2, rather than have everything implemented in Python
46 07:22:24 <mgorse> so I'm starting to work on adapting the half-finished cspi code I had. I want to try to get something minimal working so that I can test to determine for sure whether it's actually worth doing
47 07:24:04 <API> mgorse, just a guess, that would mean that you will implement cspi for at-spi2?
48 07:24:12 <API> or at least part of it?
49 07:25:32 <mgorse> What I'm doing will make it easier to implement cspi, but it will epend if I have time to do it. The CSPI api doesn't seem to be the same as what a GLib-based app usually has, so it doesn't seem ideal to use with gobject introspection
50 07:26:29 <API> mgorse, hmm, but the one that want to use directly cspi? like dasher?
51 07:27:37 * ragb (~ragb@bl8-132-70.dsl.telepac.pt) has joined #a11y
52 07:27:52 <mgorse> I think I'd end up writing a thin wrapper around the library I'm working on, to translate the api, if I'm going to implement it
53 07:28:44 <API> ok mgorse thanks for the update
54 07:29:45 <API> so lets continue with other gnome 3.0
55 07:30:12 * msanchez (~msanchez@155.99.117.91.static.mundo-r.com) has joined #a11y
56 07:30:13 <API> KeWang, something new from your side
57 07:30:15 <API> ?
58 07:30:19 <API> (JAW)
59 07:31:16 <KeWang> API, I'm reviewing JAW bugs on bugzilla recently
60 07:31:38 <KeWang> Hope I can get some of them fixed soon :-)
61 07:32:33 <API> KeWang, ok, that means that you started your work on JAW again, right?
62 07:32:45 <API> AFAIK, you were not able to do that on the last months
63 07:33:13 * bnitz1 (~bnitz@79.97.181.9) has joined #a11y
64 07:33:18 <KeWang> API, yes.
65 07:34:06 <KeWang> I was busy on transfer from sun to oracle last month...
66 07:34:40 <API> KeWang, that means that LiYuan will also have time to go back to work?
67 07:34:48 <API> I mean to work in a11y things ;)
68 07:34:53 <API> for sure he is working
69 07:35:20 <KeWang> yes, Li's working on a11y.
70 07:37:30 <API> KeWang, ok, awesome, lets hope he can assist to future meetings to ask him directly
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72 07:37:57 <API> well, anyone wants to ask/share something about gnome 3.0 updates?
73 07:38:39 <KeWang> API, do you have any questions that I can pass to Li?
74 07:39:51 <API> KeWang, well, you said that he is working on a11y, so questions like
75 07:39:57 <API> in which project he will work
76 07:40:13 <API> or if he would have time enough to help mgorse with at-spi2
77 07:40:24 <API> or in any "red item" from the gnome 3.0 list
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80 07:44:15 <KeWang> API, ok, I'll pass these to Li. He will attend the next meeting.
81 07:44:42 <API> KeWang, ok, thanks
82 07:44:45 <API> so lets move
83 07:44:48 * API checking agenda
84 07:45:04 <API> Feedback on Caribou requirements questions
85 07:45:13 <API> well, heidi has created a wiki page
86 07:45:32 <API> in order to get feedback
87 07:45:49 <API> from caribou
88 07:46:47 <API> http://live.gnome.org/Caribou/RequirementsQuestions
89 07:47:03 <API> some people have started to add some notes here
90 07:47:34 <API> anyway, it would be good that more feedback (me included)
91 07:47:38 <API> dpellicer you here?
92 07:53:10 <API> ...
93 07:53:14 <API> it seems that no
94 07:53:46 <API> so lets move for this last 5 minutes
95 07:54:01 <API> roadmap
96 07:54:05 <API> well, nothing new
97 07:54:12 <API> I still need to create a rough draft
98 07:54:14 <API> as a base
99 07:54:29 <API> and then let people to discuss it in order to improve it
100 07:54:54 <API> Boston Summit:
101 07:55:12 <API> joanie and aleiva plan to go there to talk with gs and webkitgtk people
102 07:55:16 <API> someone else?
103 07:56:04 <aleiva> probably we'll meet with gnome-shell folks too
104 07:56:08 <mgorse> I'll be there, since I'm living here right now, but not sure what I'll do exactly
105 07:59:52 <API> aleiva, sorry, I should avoid to use acronyms :P
106 07:59:55 <API> gs == gnome shell
107 08:00:28 <API> mgorse, ok, thanks
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109 08:00:46 <API> well, time is over
110 08:00:48 <API> so
111 08:00:51 <API> miscellaneous
112 08:01:02 <API> someone what to add something to the meeting?
113 08:01:14 <aleiva> API: aps. true
114 08:02:03 <aleiva> API: then, we'll meet also with ezoom developers, and whoever want to meet with us about orca and a11y
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