Minutes for Accessibility IRC Meeting of October 21th, 2010

Meeting Log

20101021_log.txt
Note: the meeting log also includes some previous conversation related Dasher on the IRC. This is because the first item of the meeting was related to this conversation.

Penelope Stowe shared his concerns about Dasher status towards GNOME 3.0
Although it is included on the Accessibility/GNOME3 item, it requires a update, and in the same way, she thinks that miss at-spi2 support is really important.
Current Accessibility/GNOME3 seems to suggest that the missing functionality is minor
She will contact Patrick Welche in order to get a update and confirm the current text.

During the AEGIS GNOME 3.0 revision several "need to contact maintainers" were written
Gently reminder to the maintainers to update the status, and also the need to do it explicitly.
Mike Gorse and Joseph updated their sections.

Alejandro Piñeiro asks Joseph if he is aware about the last mails and conversation related to integrate GNOME Shell and Orca
Summary
- They didn't suggest to move all orca code to GS
- They just want a tighter integration, so transparently, the user will have a screen reader feature, not starting a program
- Some of the UI settings would be moved to GS
This can affect the current work related to the shared DBUS magnifier API
Joanie will coordinate the details with Joseph
GS developers will be on Boston Summit, they want to talk about this with Orca developers

Dan Winship updated his keyboard navigation patches
Owen Taylor is reviewing it
Alejandro Piñeiro is doing a a11y POV check, like testing them with orca, and providing some feedback and questions

Heidi is waiting for the Caribou feedback.
Alejandro Piñeiro points that some questions, like GOK deprecation, should be easy to answer.
Heidi mentions that one of the basic questions are related the top needs for keyboards
Joanie mentioned that to get feedback and requisites to this project is hard for the gnome accessibility community
Blidness is easier because we have a huge, active Orca community and it's Joanie DayJob field
Joanie suggests that as we need to write a roadmap, we should include to add a study of some sort
Penelope Stowe also volunteer to help
Finally Alejandro Piñeiro suggests Heidi to take a look to http://live.gnome.org/GnomeShell/Design/Whiteboards/ScreenKeyboard, and check if the current Caribou work would be hepful here
Joanmarie suggest Heide to take a look http://ma.easterseals.com/site/PageServer?pagename=MADR_DLRC

Alejandro Piñeiro thinks that the question "Do we need more hackfests?" should be somewhat digested on the mailing list before debate it on the weekly meeting.
Joanie mentions that in the meantime, hackfest for hackfest's sake is silly, and that those should be organized for a reason.

Joanie suggest write a "AEGIS post mortem", a summary of things that didn't go as expected, in order to fix them on the next ocasion
Joanie volunteers to start this work

The mailing list received a mail related to Google code in
- http://blogs.gnome.org/aklapper/2010/10/21/google-code-in-gnome-needs-your-tasks/
A sort of google summer of code spin off.
It seems similar to Bryen, we will talk with him about it after his come back

Penelope said that the Ubuntu Developer Summit is near, with some about accessibility
http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-n/
They can be remotely accessed

Brian ask for some suggestions on test reporting
Alejandro Piñeiro asks if he asked that outside the hackfest, as not all the community were there
No
Alejandro Piñeiro suggests Brian to send a mail and create a wiki page, like Heidi

Unity and GNOME 3.0
Bastien Nocera mail about loading gtk modules
GNOME 3.0 updates
Roadmap
Thoughts on "Do we need more hackfests?"
Reminders:
- Did you update your section(s) of the GNOME 3.0 page?
- Do you have feedback for Heidi and her students regarding Caribou Requirements?
- Q3 status reports were due to Bryen 18 October. Please add your report to our wiki so that Bryen can write and submit a summary for inclusion in the full GNOME Foundation Q3 report.
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