Meeting on November 7th

Attendees:

• Meg Ford
• Nuritzi Sanchez
• Allan Day
• Benjamin Berg
• Marina Zhurakhinskaya

Agenda:

• Review codes of conduct - https://wiki.gnome.org/Diversity/CoCWorkingGroup/Resources/CoCs/Review

• Come up with the positive behaviors we want to encourage and what we want to prohibit

• Start a draft for our event CoC https://etherpad.gnome.org/p/Draft_GNOME_CoC_for_Events

Notes:

Explicitly Banned behavior: do we want to have a list of specific behaviors that are contrary to the coc?

• Marina objects to the inclusion of public shaming because it is used in a context where any identification is seen as bad. Prefers "public identification"
• Ben - someone who is publicly identified can also be publicly shamed, and the point of the coc is to codify the response

  • What is public shaming? The PyCon "Dongle" incident

  • If something happens we want the organizers to deal with it, instead of having a public flamewar
  • How would we respond to public shaming at an event?
  • Was the Tor incident response public shaming?
    • Marina - First response should be that the organizers deal with the issue, but in the end it is up to the person whether they share their opinion/experience
    • Nuritzi - French police forcing woman to remove clothes on the beach, someone publishing photo on social media elicited response. Another example is Lefty's response to RMS.
    • Allan - Lefty's response to RMS was different because the incident had already happened.
    • Marina - "public shaming" is a worthwhile thing to discuss. We need to discourage people from taking to social media first by providing ways for people to feel like they can report instances. But we need a balance. We can't stop someone from posting on social media something like "omg, I can't believe RMS made an emacs virgins joke"
    • Meg - it makes sense to have a statement about how we will not publicize harassment incidents. let's make sure that we phrase things in a way where we don't specifically prohibit attendees from publicizing harassment.
  • Should we include a statement that specifically prohibits attendees from publicizing harassment/publicly shaming?
    • Ben - objects to specifically identifying person
    • Marina would like us to have it in the form of guidelines for attendees: have something that says that organizers will not publicly identify people and ask attendees to be thoughtful about what they post on social media.

Action items:

@All - Come up with phrasing for guidelines related to publicizing harassment incidents