Meeting Summary

• Meeting started by Piñeiro at 16:00 CET.
• Meeting ended at 17:10 CET.
• Participants (Lines Said):
  • Piñeiro - API (142)
  • Joanie - joanie (92)
  • Joseph - clown (51)
  • Juanjo - jjmarin (34)
  • Mike - mgorse(25)
  • Magdalen - magpie (12)

• Log

Focus-tracking Deprecation

• Piñeiro still has pending that mail to gtk maintainers about retaking this.

• Based on mozilla bug 960241 and associated discussion, Joanie is starting to think that Matthias is correct. What *exactly* the "spec" should look like remains up in the air. But being able to point to concrete ATK docs that clearly state expectations would be handy.

Wayland

• Piñeiro also needs to send an email resuming the discussion at the wayland-dev list.

Other Progress Towards 3.12

• Piñeiro was working on some minor clutter-bugs related to remove text (ie: alt+f2 dialog) pointed out by Joanie.
• Joanie is still doing the Great Orca Rewrite.
• Mike was commenting on some evolution and related bugs, hoping it would be useful, but sometimes it doesn't do any good to just write a comment.
• ACTION: Mike will ping aruiz re: evolution and gtkhtml accessibility bugs.

• The pointer size is not configurable in GNOME 3. The main bug is 608231 where Allan Day asks the opinion of the a11y party. There is a person, Jason Steward, who volunteers to code the fix and is waiting for some confirmation.

• BTW, Allan Day has some open questions in (duplicated) bug 665907 about the relation to the size with the HC theme then and about the color effects and the pointer.

• ACTION: Juanjo will track bug 608231.

W3C Updates

• Reminder that there is a three day face-to-face ARIA meeting here in Toronto next week (Thu Jan 23 - Sat Jan 25).
• This week is the end of the "any last comments on the UAIG" before moving to the next step for publication.

• As of Mon, the four features at risk will be considered and dealt with: http://www.w3.org/TR/wai-aria-implementation/#sotd_atrisk

• Summarizing the probable outcomes:
  • Feature one will be removed as there are no implementations.
  • Feature two will likely be removed, unless Microsoft tells us otherwise.
  • Feature three will stay — there are implemenations.
  • Feature four: we are waiting on Apple to confirm that they implemented it. It will likely stay.

Marketing Updates

• No news this week.

Miscellaneous Time

• FOSDEM is coming.
• There will be GNOME activity there.
• This year Piñeiro will not be there to give the usual a11y related presentation. But is possible one co-worker will be there, and attend the after-fosdem libreoffice hackfest, probably doing a11y stuff.

Action Items

New

• Mike:
  • Ping Alberto Ruiz about evolution and gtkhtml accessibility bugs.
• Juanjo:

  • Track bug 608231

Ongoing / Rolled-Over

• Joanie:
  • Review the first public draft of ARIA 1.1 with specific attention to our current API.
  • Do some testing and update the Evolution a11y bugs.
• Mike:
  • Investigate D-Bus authentication and what can be done with it.
• Piñeiro:
  • Create bugs and patches, hoping that gtk, clutter and gnome-shell developers will be more active looking at patches.
  • Follow up with the discussion on the Wayland list.
  • gnome-shell not accessible on wayland. Hacky solution available. Proper solution needed.
  • Look at tooltip related code to see the possibility of adding mouse-in, mouse-out event at the a11y toolkit.
  • Check with gtk and clutter developers to see what the plans are with respect to pango.