Meeting Summary

• Meeting started by Piñeiro at 16:06 CET.
• Meeting ended at 17:41 CET.
• Participants (Lines Said):
  • Piñeiro - API (182)
  • Joanie - joanie (135)
  • Joseph - clown (86)
  • Magdalen - magpie (79)
  • Juanjo - jjmarin (24)
  • Mike - mgorse (8)
  • Heidie - heidie (7)
  • Sebastien - |Lupin| (4)

• Log

GSoC Update

• A patch which demonstrates the working focus and caret tracking integrated into the magnifier.js work, has been accepted to GNOME Shell master after a freeze break request by Alejandro. Thanks Alejandro.

• LINK: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=647074

• Magdalen has been updating the wiki to explain the work

• https://wiki.gnome.org/SummerOfCode2013/Projects/MagdalenBernsCaretAndFocusTracking

• Magdalen has been working on the release notes with Juanjo and is interested to see what he thinks of the last draft she emailed.
• Magdalen has carried out some tests to check performance degradation caused by the atspi init but after seeking advice from Mike Gorse she feels the test is not complete enough for the results to be reliable: He explained There's a call to atk_bridge_adaptor_init in main.c and that she could time that with and without there being a call to atspi_init()
• Magdalen will be working on the ui today as advised by Joseph. She also promised Jasper to update the magnifier and tidy it up so has to put some thought into that.
• Magdalen goes back to uni next week and she wants to look into click lock sometimes soon.

• LINK: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=707666

• Magdalen also updated https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=707693

• There are some doubts about bug 707666. During the following week, we will try to answer them.

• Joseph received an email from the GSoC admin outlining the end of the program, and how students are to submit their code.
• Josephs wants to make sure Magdalen is aware of this.

• http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2013/codeguidelines

• They suggest that "pencils down" is Sep 16.
• Quoting from the email: "We suggest that students have completed their projects by this date and spend a week writing documentation and wrapping up their projects. We require that students stop all coding on 23 September. "
• "this date" is Sep 16.

Other Issues Related to GNOME 3.10

• There are several bugs related with the new gtk widgets, examples: gtkheaderbar, gtklistbox.
• We did a little work testing them before, but as usual, we found some of those bugs on real apps.
• The poster child was gnome-control-center, specifically universal access.
• Due to those bugs, universal access panel was inaccessible (irony shot for everyone).
• This week Joanmarie was using orca to review g-c-c and some other apps, and we were solving them.
• Patch review was also good thanks to Matthias and Kalev, so hopefully we will fix those regression before the hard code freeze.
• One of the regressions are not related to new widgets, but about combobox
• Benjamin Otte (IRC: Company) was taking a look to that

• https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=707786.

• ACTION: Joanie will ping Benjamin about the status of that bug.
• ACTION: everybody, test.

"Boston" Summit and the possibility of Wayland Accessibility Hacking

• The "Boston" summit this year is being held in the other Boston (aka Montreal) 12-14 October.
• Given all the Wayland Accessibility issues, Piñeiro and Joanie were thinking that it might make sense to have some sort of "hackfest" (or hacking session) in Montreal to try to get some of these issues solved.
• We haven't thought much beyond that, i.e. should we have an official hackfest; a before/after event?

• https://wiki.gnome.org/Montreal2013

Marketing

• Juanjo has started the release notes for the new accessibility features

• https://git.gnome.org/browse/release-notes/commit/?h=gnome-3-10&id=fc614b6df76797e485bec191a44aff2cae881f4a

• It is just a draft and it hasn't been reviewed yet. Today we have the first meeting about the release notes.
• Magdalen sent out an update to the a11y mailing list.
• Magdalen has been invited to do a talk at the women in engineering student conference in october about the work from this summer.

• http://www.wes.org.uk/

W3C Updates

• There was a latest public draft for IndieUI published at the end of July.

• http://www.w3.org/TR/indie-ui-events

• On the ARIA front, as of yesterday, there is only one test case needed to advance the ARIA spec to the next stage.

• https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/testharness/testreport?testsuite_id=1&filter_invalid=on&filter_required=on&filter_cr_met=on&filter=Filter+view

• Actually, looking at that table, it looks like there are two implementations.
• Finally, the next stage for ARIA is to run the UAIG (User Agent Implementation Guide) specific test cases.
• The plan is to finish that by the end of September, and publish a last call revision of the UAIG.

• LINK: http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/aria-implementation

Action Items

• Joanie:

  • Ping Benjamin about the status of the GtkComboBox bug.

• Team:
  • Test GNOME 3.9.x

Ongoing / Rolled-Over

• Joanie:
  • Do some testing and update the Evolution a11y bugs.
• Juanjo:
  • Take a look at the current a11y material in order to make an action plan.
• Piñeiro:
  • Ping mousetweaks maintainers in relation with their plans towards Wayland.
  • Send a email to accessibility-dev, just in case the Wayland Accessibility section needs to be filled.
  • Compose a "what accessibility needs from Wayland, how to use it" email, ask for review, send to the Wayland Developer's list.
  • Ping GNOME designers, so hopefully some default keybinding will be available for 3.8.
  • Create some usability-configurability related bugs, using Bryen's mail as a starting point.