16:07:59 #startmeeting 16:07:59 Meeting started Thu Apr 25 16:07:59 2013 CET. The chair is API. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 16:07:59 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 16:08:11 #topic Outreach Program for Women 16:08:20 I have an action item related with this 16:08:49 related with ping rtcm 16:08:58 as there isn't too many people 16:09:06 I will do that by inviting him now 16:09:11 awesome 16:09:27 so pinged, lets wait a moment 16:09:33 k 16:09:49 as for opw 16:09:53 which is not gsoc.... 16:10:57 #info "Magpie" (her nick) has done quite a bit of research regarding mousetweaks. 16:11:21 #info She will very likely submit an OPW application and require a mentor. 16:12:09 hi ! 16:12:09 #info Because our general team policy with respect to OPW has been one boiling down to "prove your worthiness and we'll support you," we will need to support her. 16:12:12 hey 16:12:15 perfect timing 16:12:31 joanie, ups, sorry of the opw and gsoc thing, sometime I mix stuff 16:12:35 too many acronyms 16:12:44 #info Magpie submitted a bug and patch (Joanie believes). 16:12:52 yes 16:12:55 jjmarin: since you have been working with magpie.... 16:13:04 could you fill in that blank (the bug)? 16:13:17 and also any relevant details you know 16:13:20 yes, searching 16:13:23 please and thank you 16:13:49 API: no worries. We are swimming in alphabet soup. 16:14:00 (is there alphabet soup in spain?) 16:14:18 yep 16:14:26 #info submitted a patch for bug #589906 16:14:26 04Bug https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=589906 enhancement, Normal, ---, gnome-shell-maint, UNCONFIRMED, RFE: Add dwelling to the Accessibility dialog 16:14:40 (api, how do accented letters work in noodles?) 16:14:48 (i'm being a bad minion.) 16:14:58 thanks jjmarin! 16:15:04 np :) 16:15:09 although we call it "sopa de letras" which would be directly translated as "letter soup" (in-the-middle misc time for the win!) 16:15:11 * joanie looks 16:15:31 it's always misc o'clock! 16:15:37 :) 16:16:08 nice 16:16:54 #info "Magpie" is currently interacting with Jasper and Juanjo on the bug mentioned. 16:17:24 #info If she requires a mentor from our team, we need to figure out who that will be. 16:17:48 jjmarin: I assume she'd need a mentor from gnome-shell too 16:18:07 so do you have the time to be our team's co-mentor? 16:18:16 yes, np 16:18:21 suhweet 16:18:35 though, I don't know too much :-) 16:18:52 #info If we need to co-mentor her (with the gnome-shell team), Juanjo has volunteered to be our team's mentor for her. 16:19:10 our team tends to take the village approach 16:19:15 so we can help you if needed 16:19:19 but we need a point person 16:19:26 does she send her proposal ? 16:19:32 and since you are able and willing, that would be you. :) 16:19:42 meaning has she already done so? 16:19:50 not that I've seen, but I can check 16:19:58 btw, there are mailing lists for OPW 16:20:03 what's the topic? :-) 16:20:06 if you are not on them you probably should be 16:20:15 rtcm: soon it will be gsoc :) 16:20:22 API: let's move to that topic now 16:20:23 joanie, jjmarin could we have a parenthesis then? 16:20:37 since our guest has arrived :) 16:20:44 ok 16:20:51 #topic GSoC 16:20:53 (I'll look for the list info) 16:21:12 rtcm, people approach us in order to propose a gsoc idea 16:21:42 it was proposed to get focus tracking for the gnome-shell magnifier 16:21:53 this seemed a good idea 16:22:08 and we proposed Joseph Scheuehammer as one of the possible mentors 16:22:25 he developed the magnifier, and have some proof of concepts for the focus tracking 16:22:44 so, we proposed that, and Marina told us that it would be a good idea to have also a 16:22:52 sounds good 16:22:52 gnome-shell developer around 16:23:08 I can help and answer code questions 16:23:15 she sent a email, but nobody offered himself as volunteer 16:23:24 but I can't commit to being a mentor 16:23:30 rtcm, were you cced on that email? 16:24:06 who is she ? 16:24:19 marina 16:24:43 didn't we determine that she sent it to (or cced) ddl? 16:24:53 API: I was and I didn't reply because I can't afford being a mentor (I'm organizing guadec already) 16:25:00 rtcm, well, the thing is that we pinged Jasper first, and he suggested you 16:25:04 rtcm, ah, yes 16:25:07 that seems 16:25:11 really time-consuming 16:25:22 guadec? nah. it's easy. :P 16:25:28 I did put my name in the wiki page 16:25:38 well, this was basically what joseph also said 16:25:44 and asked 16:25:46 and as I said, I can answer specific questions about the code 16:25:51 oh, nice! thanks rtcm!! 16:25:56 as he was not sure how much work being a mentor means 16:26:57 he will have to review the code and generally steer the student (depends on the students abilities) 16:26:58 since we are still an "untriaged idea".... Does anyone know how triaging ideas works? 16:27:19 rtcm: steering is something we can do 16:27:24 no idea about that triaging process 16:28:02 magpie has ideas for hover click that I guess it will tackle gnome shell. Though not sure because I don't know her proposal yet 16:29:04 in any case 16:29:15 and in order to not consume too much time from rtcm 16:29:41 I think that we can conclude that he can help with some questions and code review 16:29:51 * joanie nods 16:29:52 but not a full mentoring 16:30:12 so the action item will be answer marina 16:30:12 that should be fine, yes 16:30:25 with what everybody (joseph and rtcm) said 16:30:33 well, and what we said 16:30:41 and see if it enough to go on with that 16:30:44 makes sense? 16:30:50 i think so 16:30:57 are you taking that AI? 16:31:11 rtcm: thanks for helping :) 16:31:14 ok 16:31:25 rtcm, yeah thank you, and thank you for coming 16:31:33 AI ? 16:31:35 I think that you can continue with your normal life now ;) 16:31:49 jjmarin: Action Item 16:31:59 wow ! 16:32:17 ? 16:32:43 yw 16:32:48 AI meaning was unexpected for me :) 16:33:01 silly jjmarin :) 16:33:44 #action API will send a email to Marina in relation to the GSOC 16:34:12 joanie, could you make a summary later for the minutes or do you prefer some pretty #info here? 16:34:25 either way 16:34:43 Hi all. I'm sorry for missing half the meeting. 16:34:45 if you could pretty info it now, it would save time later though 16:35:00 mgorse: you have 1000 action items /me grins 16:35:52 #info We have an action item of pinging rtcm after our chat with jasper some weeks ago 16:36:39 #info we invited him to the a11y-meeting. He would not have enough time for being a mentor, but could give some guidance in the form of answering questions and some code review 16:37:10 #info API will send to marina a mail with all this info (joseph answer, jasper answer, rtcm answer) 16:37:11 done 16:37:20 so I think that the topic is over 16:37:22 thanks! 16:37:24 yup 16:37:25 anything else or moving? 16:38:42 I guess that moving 16:38:47 #topic W3C updates 16:38:50 joseph is not here 16:38:55 joanie, something to say here? 16:39:02 nope 16:39:10 and Mark has not been around this week 16:39:52 ok 16:39:55 #action Joanie will email Mark Sadecki about our team meetings and invite him to join us to provide W3C updates 16:40:07 #topic Marketing 16:40:09 jjmarin, ? 16:40:43 #info Juanjo has only done some work in the a11y documentation 16:41:07 #info Juanjo needs to do more work in the wikipedia :-) 16:41:34 done ! 16:41:35 :) 16:41:41 just a question 16:41:48 there are a lot of activity on the marketing list 16:41:48 please 16:42:02 some suggested a marketing hackfest 16:42:13 is that true or I just read too quick? 16:42:22 yes, there is going to be a hackfest in NY 16:42:38 and we are finishing the annual report 16:43:19 I won't be able to attend to the hackfest, beacuse I don't have schedule for june july 16:43:52 and I have important meetting with unkown dates :/ 16:44:10 ok, thanks 16:44:30 anyway, I guess that the only thing that could affect to a11y on that marketing hackfest is the annual report 16:45:08 there is an article about the a11y FoG campaing in the report 16:45:27 :) 16:46:21 and I hope soon it will be some news about the contract from the a11y FoG ;-) 16:46:44 well the advantage of the report being late 16:46:51 is that there are possibilities of including that 16:46:54 having said so 16:46:59 something else in this point? 16:47:06 more questions, doubts, comments? 16:48:45 no more questions from me to me :P 16:49:03 ok 16:49:13 well, this meeting was fast 16:49:14 so 16:49:19 #topic Miscellaneous time 16:49:38 someone want to add something (short) not included on the agenda? 16:52:16 do you think #647711 and #665907 can be done in gnome 3.10 ? 16:53:35 * API looking 16:54:25 well, about the stickikey one 16:54:34 the good news is that it received some attention 16:54:40 as soon as 3.8 was out 16:55:14 so hopefully, yes 16:55:43 I have more doubts about the second one 16:56:00 in the sense that stickykeys at least they are talking about how to implement that 16:56:09 they are already talking about developing 16:56:17 in the second one, about the size of the mouse pointer 16:56:34 taking into account aday comments, stuff seems more in the air 16:57:26 ok :-) 16:58:47 at least I will follow these bugs reports 16:59:26 and joanie has nothing more to say about "letters soup" ? 16:59:42 I still want to know how the accented letters are done 17:00:20 I think you can discard the accents :) 17:00:43 spanish alphabet soups has a lot of typos 17:00:45 I also wonder if there is alphabet soup for asian languages 17:00:53 and for that matter arabic and hebrew 17:01:09 misc time is misc 17:01:13 :) 17:01:14 and in order to end the mist time: 17:01:16 http://www.20minutos.es/noticia/241150/0/Faltan/letras/sopa/ 17:01:19 in spanish! 17:01:21 meeting over 17:01:25 see you next time 17:01:29 #endmeeting