1 16:20:17 <API> #startmeeting
   2 16:20:17 <tota11y> Meeting started Thu Aug 16 16:20:17 2012 CET.  The chair is API. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
   3 16:20:17 <tota11y> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic.
   4 16:20:24 <API> #topic GNOME OS
   5 16:20:49 <API> #info jjmarin pointed that UX started to review what means "touch-friendly"
   6 16:20:58 <API> #info as part of the GNOME OS tasks
   7 16:21:31 <API> #info API mentioned that it is still a WIP thing, and as much we can talk about general touch-related desired features
   8 16:21:41 <API> #info joanie mentioned some specific ones
   9 16:22:23 <API> #action API will list some of those features (ie: possibility to define a gesture to control a11y features like zoom), and send it to design team(?)
  10 16:22:35 <API> I used (?) because not sure if it is the proper recipient
  11 16:22:47 <jjmarin> yes they are
  12 16:22:52 <API> anyway, did I forget something ?
  13 16:23:17 <API> if I forget something, please use the powerful #info ;)
  14 16:23:26 <jjmarin> I think is ok
  15 16:23:29 <jjmarin> :-)
  16 16:23:55 <jjmarin> thanks !
  17 16:23:59 <API> ok, so lets move on this mini-meeting
  18 16:24:07 <API> #topic GUADEC summary
  19 16:24:39 <API> #info Last week Alejandro Piñeiro mentioned that it didn't worth to have a #topic to talk about the GUADEC, as could consume all the meeting
  20 16:24:51 <API> #info API has just sent a summary to the mailing list
  21 16:25:12 <API> #info people assisting the GUADEC can read it, add stuff if API forgot something, make questions, etc
  22 16:25:52 <API> #info we can have a topic at the next meeting just in case someone wants to add something in an IRC style
  23 16:25:53 <API> done
  24 16:25:56 <API> questions, doubts?
  25 16:26:05 <jjmarin> nop
  26 16:28:19 <API> ok, so lets move
  27 16:28:23 <API> #topic GNOME 3.6
  28 16:28:54 <API> #info As Joseph was in holidays, I was helping with the color stuff for the zoom options dialog
  29 16:29:12 <API> #info joanie and API had a meeting with aday this Tuesday
  30 16:29:21 <API> #info aday sent a mockup this wednesday
  31 16:29:57 <API> #info API sent a patch implementing it, Bastien reviewed it, and comitted it, so the zoom options dialog has now color stuff
  32 16:30:07 <jjmarin> +1
  33 16:30:11 <joanie> yay
  34 16:30:25 <API> #info API due that work, GUADEC and dayjob, ATK and gnome-shell work stagnated, so no new stuff on that side
  35 16:30:27 <API> done
  36 16:30:41 <API> so, next one?
  37 16:30:59 <joanie> #info But Piñeiro and Joanie are working on Orca + Epiphany/WebKitGtk improvements.
  38 16:31:02 <joanie> :)
  39 16:31:16 <jjmarin> +1
  40 16:32:04 <jjmarin> I have nothing to add, but you both rock ! :-)
  41 16:33:14 <jjmarin> next one ?
  42 16:33:31 <API> #topic Planning how to use the FoG funds
  43 16:33:47 <API> #info a11y FoG finished
  44 16:33:56 <API> #info so next step is decide what to do with that money
  45 16:34:15 <API> #info when we made the proposal, we already listed some specific cases
  46 16:34:45 <API> #info on GUADEC we informally talked about this with some people, and we said that the
  47 16:35:05 <API> #info next step is talk with the rest of the team, probably on next a11y meeting after GUADEC
  48 16:35:15 <API> #info not enough quorum
  49 16:35:18 <API> sooo
  50 16:35:32 <API> I think that we are not enough people to talk about that
  51 16:35:50 <jjmarin> I agree
  52 16:35:52 <API> so, what about writing some kind of proposal, and send it to th elist to check if people agree with it?
  53 16:36:03 <API> joanie, ?
  54 16:36:10 <joanie> that's one option
  55 16:36:19 <joanie> let's see who all is at the next meeting
  56 16:38:24 <API> #info due lack of quorum, this discussion is postponer to next meeting
  57 16:38:37 <API> #topic Marketing and Fundraising
  58 16:38:41 <API> jjmarin, ?
  59 16:39:54 <jjmarin> #Info Juanjo is looking for some goals for marketing. Maybe work in the accessibility page, or in some introductory material
  60 16:40:34 <jjmarin> so I ask for sugesstion in this meeting and I'll ask again in the next meeting
  61 16:40:44 <jjmarin> :-)
  62 16:41:12 <jjmarin> suggestion or questions ?
  63 16:41:21 <joanie> no suggestions
  64 16:41:30 <joanie> what were you thinking about in terms of new content?
  65 16:41:35 <API> well, some cleaning and updating are required
  66 16:41:48 <API> most of the stuff and guides are GNOME 2.0 stuff
  67 16:42:02 <API> so at least classify those pages as "old" is a good thing to do
  68 16:43:00 <jjmarin> are you talking about lgo and about the project page, right ?
  69 16:43:15 <API> well lgo is more updated
  70 16:43:25 <API> so Im talking more about project page
  71 16:43:26 <jjmarin> Yes, I think I can start from there
  72 16:43:39 <API> most of project page guides are outdated
  73 16:43:43 <jjmarin> yes
  74 16:43:45 <API> there == project page?
  75 16:44:15 <jjmarin> http://projects.gnome.org/accessibility/
  76 16:45:12 <jjmarin> action: Juanjo will take a look to the current a11y material in order to make an action plan
  77 16:45:27 <jjmarin> :-)
  78 16:45:56 <API> I think that you forgot a pretty # ;)
  79 16:46:03 <jjmarin> oh !
  80 16:46:10 <jjmarin> #action: Juanjo will take a look to the current a11y material in order to make an action plan
  81 16:46:41 <jjmarin> joanie: about your question, I was thinking about https://live.gnome.org/Accessibility/Marketing/MarketingForDevelopersAndDesigners
  82 16:46:53 <joanie> ah
  83 16:47:07 <jjmarin> everything is related anyway
  84 16:47:23 <jjmarin> So, I have work to do ;-)
  85 16:47:28 <joanie> :)
  86 16:48:36 <jjmarin> next topic ?
  87 16:49:02 <API> ok
  88 16:49:11 <API> #topic miscellaneous time
  89 16:49:21 <API> #info today we were just three people
  90 16:49:27 <API> #info holidays are holidays
  91 16:50:01 <jjmarin> we have all the miscellaneous time for us :-)
  92 16:50:51 <jjmarin> in http://happybirthdaygnome.org a11y is mentioned :-)
  93 16:51:05 * API looking
  94 16:51:27 <jjmarin> GNOME 2.0
  95 16:52:44 <API> heh, you can download and test gnome 1.4
  96 16:52:56 <jjmarin> I did the summaries from 1.0 to 3.4, but and the end only some summaries of my summaries are in the page :-)
  97 16:55:26 <API> well, a summary needs to be short
  98 16:55:28 <jjmarin> a question, I think the design team has a news keyboard shortcut layout, right ?
  99 16:55:35 <API> my GUADEC summary in the end is like a little book
 100 16:55:50 <API> hmm, not sure, they were talking about that
 101 16:56:00 <API> but not sure if they finished it
 102 16:57:46 <jjmarin> there must be design document somewhere, because this post http://worldofgnome.org/gnome-new-keyboard-shortcuts-designs/
 103 16:58:53 <jjmarin> it's here https://live.gnome.org/GnomeOS/Design/Whiteboards/KeyboardShortcuts
 104 16:59:46 <jjmarin> ok, that's all from me :-)
 105 17:00:40 <API> and in time for meeting finish time
 106 17:00:46 <API> so thank you all three of you
 107 17:00:51 <API> finishing the meeting
 108 17:00:53 <API> #endmeeting