Meeting Summary

  • Meeting started by Piñeiro at 16:05:45 CET.
  • Meeting ended at 17:05:34 CET.
  • Participants (Lines Said):
    • Joanie - joanie (102)
    • Piñeiro - API (88)
    • Joseph - clown (60)
    • Juanjo - jjmarin (27)
    • Mike - mgorse (8)
    • Heidi - heidi (1)
  • Log

Collective response to "What I am extremely missing in Gnome 3"

  • There is a list of missing features in GNOME 3 that were in GNOME 2.
  • This list was given in an email on the gnome-a11y list.

  • ACTION: Joseph will take the "missing in GNOME 3" email and summarize the list of items on a wiki page.
  • ACTION: Joanie will create the new 3.6 stump pages during this meeting.
  • ACTION: After making the list, Joseph will add responses in terms of gs-mag, where they are appropriate.
  • ACTION: Juanjo will add to the wiki the gnome 2 options that Detlef mentions.

GNOME 3.6

  • Screen Reader has been added as an item in the GNOME Shell menu.
  • Question: Can we get a keyboard shortcut for users to enable screen reader support in GDM?
  • Much work as been done on enabling accessibility by default. Yay!
  • Question: What is the current status?
  • Question: What's going to happen with respect to Gecko since Gecko is migrating from Gtk+ 2 to Gtk+ 3?
  • Bastien has suggested that there is still much work we need to do on at-spi2-atk.
  • Question: Should we be having a conversation with him?
  • On a positive note, Orca is Python 3 now. Accerciser will be soon as Joanie has done all the patches.
  • Question: How does this impact JHBuild?
  • Question: Should we have a build-time flag for pyatspi2?
  • Joanie is pleased at the progress being made thusfar in the cycle but worries that if we don't address the above concerns, we may get bitten in the butt.
  • About the shortcut, one can set just with gsettings: gsettings set 'org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.media-keys' screenreader '
  • We need to check if that works for gdm (is gdm a normal user?)
  • LINK: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=627699

  • ACTION: API send a mail to bastien to know 1. if he has specific features for the bridge 2. if he plans to work on that.
  • ACTION: mgorse will ping jjardon / ask how best to get pyatspi to build against Python 3 in jhbuild
  • ACTION: Joanie will ping David Bolter regarding a11y always on and the gecko migration to gtk3

GUADEC BoF proposed

  • Joanie worked on a draft with Piñeiro and Juanjo and submitted it as a BoF.
  • Joanie suspects it will be accepted.
  • Anyone coming to GUADEC should therefore plan on participating.
  • Joanie requested the 30th as that will make it possible for Andre Klapper to join us.

Marketing and Fundraising

  • The a11y FoG counter is up and running again. This week is US$17,152, so that means US$800 more than two weeks ago.
  • Juanjo don't have any response about the OFL FLOSS booth, I think we don't have other associations interested yet.
  • Javi posted about the a11y FoG.

Miscellaneous Time

  • (Nothing logged)

Action Items

New

  • Joanie:
    • create the new 3.6 stump pages during this meeting.
    • ping David Bolter regarding a11y always on and the gecko migration to gtk3.
  • Joseph:
    • take the "missing in GNOME 3" email and summarize the list of items on a wiki page.
    • add responses in terms of gs-mag, where they are appropriate.
  • Juanjo:
    • add to the wiki the gnome 2 options that Detlef mentions.
  • Mike:
    • ping jjardon / ask how best to get pyatspi to build against Python 3 in jhbuild
  • Piñeiro:
    • send a mail to bastien to know 1. if he has specific features for the bridge 2. if he plans to work on that.

Ongoing / Rolled-Over

  • Team members:
  • Brian:
    • Send a mail summarizing his proposal regarding a testing-centered design.
    • Announce his Mago tests on the gnome-accessibility-devel list, and also create a README and INSTALL.
  • Joanie
    • update the 3.4 team planning pages for 3.6
    • do a full evaluation of the accessibility breakage in Evolution 3.4 and file bugs accordingly.
  • Joseph:
    • Joseph to email Jan and Peter about statistics regarding users with disabilities.
    • Explore the JavaScript Atspi import further to see how much is available.

  • Juanjo:
    • Contact Bryen about the OLF a11y booth.
  • Mike:
    • Add the keyword 'accessibility' to gnome core module bugs he's filed (e.g. evolution and nautilus) which are still open.
    • File a bug regarding GAIL treeview children / children-changed signals, attach a patch, and call for testers.
    • Modify libatspi to fill in the index when possible (ie, when it has the child cached, which it will not for trees with MANAGES_DESCENDANTS for instance)
  • Piñeiro:
    • Update the AtkObject:children-changed documentation, as this could be also used on ATK implementors.

Accessibility/Minutes/20120621 (last edited 2012-06-27 23:39:00 by JoanmarieDiggs)