Meeting Summary

  • Meeting started by Piñeiro at 15:06:15 UTC.
  • Meeting ended at 16:05:34 UTC.
  • Participants (Lines Said):
    • Piñeiro - API (92)
    • Joanie - joanie (84)
    • Joseph - clown (73)
    • Juanjo - jjmarin (21)
    • Mike - mgorse (4)
  • Log

Outreach Program for Women

  • Joseph is involved in the testing of the ARIA specification.
  • Testing means checking that there are at least two implementations of the spec that work.
  • He is concentrating on FF and ATK/AT-SPI as part of that effort.
  • Others are testing IE and FF on Windows with IAccessible2 and on Mac (Safari), and their Ax.
  • The testing involves loading a small html file into the browser with, for example, an aria role set in the markup; then looking at that using accerciser to see what is coming out of AT-SPI. Where there is an expected result from the spec (something like: Div with role "alert" is published in AT-SPI as an accessible with an ALERT role").
  • There will be upwards of 1000 ? such tests. It would be nice to automate this.
  • IBM has added code to AccProbe on Windows to output an XML file that describe what IAccessble2 is seeing when a test file is loaded into the browser. Right now they simply do a diff between that XML output and the expected output. Personally, Joseph thinks a more object oriented approach would be better.

  • He thinks something like IBM's approach could be added to Accerciser somehow as a way of automating this process.
  • Joseph concluded with, "So that's the description of the overall problem while pointing vaguely at a solution, but is there anything in there for WOP?"
  • Joanie likes this plan tremendously.
  • Additional discussion followed (see log).
  • ACTION: Joseph will create a wiki page describing the overall task and think about student-oriented chunks of it.

GNOME 3.4 Updates

  • Piñeiro + joanie were working on ATK support for GNOME Shell.
  • Joanie thinks that the situation improved.
  • Piñeiro will ping danw.
  • Somewhat unrelated but also related, today there is a release team meeting. One of the items to discuss are which bugs mark as 3.4. Piñeiro will ask about this GNOME Shell+ATK patches, although probably it depends on GNOME shell maintainers.
  • If other people have some question to that release team meeting, this is the time to express them.
  • 656156

    • The brightness / contrast effect has been committed to clutter master.
    • The bug, however is left open while they decide what to do about the lightness inversion effect.
    • Joseph needs to touch base with ebassi to see if the transparency issue has been fixed.
    • mclasen has noted on the GS bug regarding these effects that the b/c effect has at least landed.
    • Joseph will continue the code in GS that uses these effects, and create a new patch.
    • Joseph will also poke the gnome-desktop-schemas project to review and commit the prefs schema for these effects.
    • ACTION: Joseph will update the Gnome 3.4 release features page wrt this work.

Marketing and Fundraising

  • Another US $1000 for the FoG a11y campaign this week.
  • Juanjo added a new testimonial to the FoG page

  • Karen will post about the status of the campaign and she will mention the new testimonial.

Miscellaneous Time

  • Andre Kappler asked teams to help on release notes.
  • We should start to think on what we got done in 3.4 for those release notes.
  • ACTION: Joseph will write something the the mag configuration panel for Andre Klapper and release notes.
  • ACTION: Juanjo will contact high contrast contributors for writing the lines for GNOME 3.4 release notes.

Action Items

New

  • Joseph:
    • create a wiki page describing the overall (proposed OWP) task and think about student-oriented chunks of it.
    • update the Gnome 3.4 release features page wrt this work.
    • write something the the mag configuration panel for Andre Klapper and release notes.
  • Juanjo:
    • contact high contrast contributors for writing the lines for GNOME 3.4 release notes.

Ongoing / Rolled-Over

  • Brian:
    • Send a mail summarizing his proposal regarding a testing-centered design.
    • Announce his Mago tests on the gnome-accessibility-devel list, and also create a README and INSTALL.
  • Joanie:
    • along with Piñeiro, ask other a11y team people about their plans for GUADEC
  • Joseph:
    • Explore the JavaScript Atspi import further to see how much is available.

  • Juanjo:
    • Test a11y on wxwidgets
  • Mike:
    • File a bug regarding GAIL treeview children / children-changed signals, attach a patch, and call for testers.
    • Modify libatspi to fill in the index when possible (ie, when it has the child cached, which it will not for trees with MANAGES_DESCENDANTS for instance)
  • Piñeiro:
    • research for the schedule, to check if it make senses to have a session during GUADEC, or we need to organize something pre-post GUADEC
    • along with joanie, ask other a11y team people about their plans for GUADEC
    • Update the AtkObject:children-changed documentation, as this could be also used on ATK implementors.

Accessibility/Minutes/20120308 (last edited 2012-03-14 19:25:27 by JoanmarieDiggs)