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Download 1 15:06:07 <API> #startmeeting
2 15:06:07 <tota11y> Meeting started Thu Feb 23 15:06:07 2012 UTC. The chair is API. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
3 15:06:07 <tota11y> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic.
4 15:06:22 <API> #topic GUADEC
5 15:06:50 <API> #info API still need to check how the schedule will be
6 15:07:12 <API> #info still missing checking which people will be at GUADEC
7 15:07:26 <API> so as we are here, we already asked clown API and joanie
8 15:07:40 <API> fregl, Javido jjmarin , plans to be at guadec?
9 15:07:48 * API also wonders who is Javido
10 15:07:52 <fregl> API: no
11 15:08:01 * clown API, it's Javier
12 15:08:22 <jjmarin> I don't have plans yet
13 15:09:09 <API> clown, but there are a lot of people called javier in spain
14 15:09:14 <API> in Igalia we have 5 ;)
15 15:09:20 <clown> only 5??
16 15:09:34 <joanie> clown: it's the python bruce sketch
17 15:09:53 <clown> API, when I asked my IRC client for more info on Javido, it said "Javier"
18 15:10:14 <jjmarin> So the idea is to have a get together of a11y people in GUADEC, a party or something :-)
19 15:10:18 <API> anyway, I think that we can summary this as
20 15:10:20 <clown> we used to have someone here named bruce...
21 15:10:27 <API> we still need to check who goes
22 15:10:34 <API> and how GUADEC will be organized
23 15:10:46 <API> afaik, it would be similar to last year
24 15:10:49 <clown> API, if I were to go, and apply to GNOME Foundation for funding, how soon should I apply?
25 15:10:52 <API> with some days for bofhs
26 15:11:14 <API> clown, well, as soon as possible
27 15:11:17 <API> for your intenrest
28 15:11:26 <API> in order to check prices for flights
29 15:11:31 <API> and because it can be also slow
30 15:11:47 <clown> right about "slow".
31 15:11:54 <API> so as I said, we still lack information
32 15:12:04 <API> so we will try to research for next
33 15:12:05 <API> one
34 15:12:14 <API> more questions, doubts thoughts about GUADEC?
35 15:12:56 <jjmarin> no from me
36 15:14:06 <API> ok, lets move then
37 15:14:20 <API> #topic Marketing and Fundraising
38 15:14:25 <API> jjmarin, ?
39 15:15:12 <jjmarin> Well, this week I don't have the info about the FoG progress bar, we'll update when we have the info
40 15:15:48 <jjmarin> #info Juanjo is working for another testimonial for the FoG campaign
41 15:16:33 <jjmarin> #info We have a draft for an a11y article, possible to be send to Linux.com
42 15:16:51 <jjmarin> and I think I don't have more news
43 15:17:24 <API> ok, thanks
44 15:17:29 <API> so moving on then
45 15:17:33 <API> #topic Reminder: Q4's are due
46 15:17:44 <API> well, deadline is tomorrow
47 15:17:46 <API> afair
48 15:17:53 <API> joanie, am I right?
49 15:18:02 <joanie> yeah
50 15:18:16 <joanie> though it tends to be a soft/squishy deadline
51 15:18:55 <API> hmm, but I thought that this is already the extended deadline
52 15:19:10 <jjmarin> yes, the a11y team is usually the 1st one :-)
53 15:19:12 * API another javi :P
54 15:19:31 <API> the 1st one asking for an extension?
55 15:19:38 <API> or the 1st one writing the report?
56 15:19:52 <jjmarin> both :-)
57 15:19:57 <joanie> #info Q4s are due. Joanie will do the summary.
58 15:20:34 <API> ok, so lets move one then, as this was just a reminder
59 15:20:44 <API> #topic 3.4 Features Updates (ThreePointThree/Features)
60 15:20:50 <API> in my case,
61 15:20:56 <API> although it was not a real feature
62 15:21:04 <jjmarin> joanie: we started the a11y FoG in december, I don't know if we should mention in the a11y report or in the marketing report ?
63 15:21:18 <API> #info API provided patches for about 5 bugs on gnome-shell related to atk support
64 15:21:31 <joanie> jjmarin: (a11y or both)
65 15:21:32 <API> #info waiting for review, hopefully before 3.4 release, but not sure
66 15:21:40 <API> done
67 15:21:52 <API> (and sorry for moving too fast to next point)
68 15:21:53 * joanie thinks we should gently nudge to get it into 3.4
69 15:22:14 <clown> I have updates from my 3.4 work. shall I go ahead?
70 15:22:19 <clown> "for my"
71 15:22:57 <clown> #info Joseph modified latest brightness/contrast shader and uploaded patch.
72 15:23:08 <clown> #info - https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=656156#c37
73 15:23:08 <tota11y> 04Bug 656156: enhancement, Normal, ---, clutter-maint, UNCONFIRMED, Add lightness, brightness, and contrast effects
74 15:23:17 <clown> #info Reviewed, and modified by Ebassi (just this morning).
75 15:23:26 <clown> #info Unfortunately, removed the ligthness inversion effect
76 15:23:34 <clown> #info He is undecided as to whether it belongs in Clutter.
77 15:23:34 <aleiva> hau
78 15:23:40 <clown> #info Suggests moving it back to GNOME Shell
79 15:23:51 <clown> #info So, now that's two Clutter maintainers now suggesting it doesn't belong in Clutter
80 15:24:12 <clown> #info - Ebassi's comment/review here: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=656156#c38
81 15:24:12 <tota11y> 04Bug 656156: enhancement, Normal, ---, clutter-maint, UNCONFIRMED, Add lightness, brightness, and contrast effects
82 15:24:32 <clown> done with respect to Clutter. Now on to GS-mag...
83 15:24:43 <clown> #info With regard to using these effects in GS-mag:
84 15:24:51 <clown> #info I'm still trying to figure out why they don't quite work.
85 15:25:06 <clown> #info Frustrating, since they work as recently as a month ago.
86 15:25:24 <clown> #info looking less like this will be available for 3.4 — it's gonna be tight.
87 15:25:46 <clown> #info Joseph will update 3.4 features page to reflect this state of affairs.
88 15:25:48 <clown> done.
89 15:27:11 <API> ok, so anyone else?
90 15:27:15 <API> joanie, ?
91 15:27:52 <joanie> #info Joanie continues to work on Orca's performance and code cleanup. Notifications are now presented by Orca in gnome-shell -- assuming the patches get approved in time for 3.4.
92 15:27:55 <joanie> (done)
93 15:28:43 <API> and as I did with my case
94 15:28:57 <API> plans for 3.4, although not required to be features
95 15:28:59 <API> mgorse, jhernandez|eee ?
96 15:29:19 <jhernandez|eee> just a little bit from my side
97 15:29:56 <jhernandez|eee> working in gtk deprecations, but I think that it will not be ready for 3.4
98 15:29:59 <jhernandez|eee> :(
99 15:30:34 <API> but afaik, part of that is not "I don't have time to" but "I'm blocked due X"
100 15:30:35 <API> right?
101 15:30:36 <jhernandez|eee> and, still some pygobject migration-related bugfixing remains
102 15:30:44 <jhernandez|eee> time
103 15:30:44 <API> I mean that you are blocked by bugs in other components
104 15:30:47 <jhernandez|eee> :S
105 15:31:05 <jhernandez|eee> at this moment, my only blocked bug, is the popup one
106 15:31:07 <API> that ":S" means that I'm right?
107 15:31:26 <jhernandez|eee> :s meanss, don't have time enough
108 15:31:30 <jhernandez|eee> ;)
109 15:32:15 * jhernandez|eee done
110 15:32:18 <mgorse> #info mgorse filed a bug against gtkhtml to fix some a11y regressions introduced by the gail refactor, but it's currently unreviewed. Also various AT-SPI fixes (not really new features)
111 15:32:27 <mgorse> done
112 15:32:36 <API> hmm, who uses gtkhtml these days?
113 15:32:44 <joanie> evolution
114 15:32:46 <API> I thought that evolution has his move
115 15:32:47 <clown> what is 'gtkhtml'?
116 15:32:52 <API> to webkit really advanced
117 15:33:06 <API> clown, is a gtk widget that allows to embed html
118 15:33:22 <clown> thanks API
119 15:33:31 <mgorse> It hadn't as of a couple weeks ago at least. I think it's probably still in progress
120 15:33:32 <API> these days is mostly underdeveloped/unmaintained
121 15:34:03 <API> mgorse, ok
122 15:34:22 <API> so, anyone else want to add something in this topic?
123 15:35:13 <jjmarin> AFAIK, the high contrast theme are done. I must find more info to confim this.
124 15:36:16 <API> jjmarin, ok, one action for you
125 15:36:19 <API> having said that
126 15:36:28 <API> lets move to our favourite topic
127 15:36:34 <API> #topic miscellaneous time
128 15:36:49 <jhernandez|eee> xDD
129 15:36:51 <API> anyone want to add something not scheduled?
130 15:37:12 * clown notes that API used the Canadian spelling of "favourite". appreciated.
131 15:38:00 <API> is the canadian or the british one?
132 15:38:13 <API> I thought that all that colour, behaviour etc
133 15:38:19 <API> was "british english"
134 15:38:20 <clown> both, although the candian derives from the briish
135 15:38:21 <API> but not sure
136 15:38:25 <jhernandez|eee> I thought canaadian==british
137 15:38:27 <API> anyway, I tend to mix all of them
138 15:38:35 * clown needs to get his spell checker fixed.
139 15:39:05 <Javido> Nice to see you :) I am Javier Dorado now from Lima Peru
140 15:39:07 <clown> jhernandez|eee: we write "analyze". british write "analyse"
141 15:39:16 <jhernandez|eee> clown: ok
142 15:39:32 <clown> we are a strange mixture of british and u.s.
143 15:39:38 <clown> spellings that is.
144 15:39:40 <jhernandez|eee> i always thought, that american english is more like andalusian spanish
145 15:39:43 <jhernandez|eee> :P :P
146 15:39:55 <clown> Hi Javido. welcome.
147 15:39:57 <prlw1> clown: as analyze is also postgresql SQL, that one required a patch to the parser ;-)
148 15:40:19 <API> miscellaneous time today is really miscellaneous
149 15:40:43 <aleiva> Javido: saludos
150 15:42:11 <Javido> No time at all, but still tracking and using open A11y :)
151 15:42:36 <aleiva> nice to hear
152 15:43:00 <jjmarin> Javido: nice to meet you
153 15:43:23 <Javido> Is my first meeting, yesterday I saw the announcement and I found a moment to assist and greets :)
154 15:43:52 <API> its good to have more people on the meetings
155 15:43:58 <API> anyway, as you see
156 15:44:09 <API> today was more empty than other weeks, and short
157 15:44:22 <API> because as nobody is saying anything a11y-related
158 15:44:29 <API> I think that I will close the meeting ;)
159 15:44:44 <jhernandez|eee> Javido: nice to see you here!
160 15:44:46 <jhernandez|eee> API: +1
161 15:44:57 <API> so as people agree
162 15:45:01 <API> or at least jhernandez|eee
163 15:45:04 <API> #endmeeting
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