15:06:07 <API> #startmeeting
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15:06:22 <API> #topic GUADEC
15:06:50 <API> #info API still need to check how the schedule will be
15:07:12 <API> #info still missing checking which people will be at GUADEC
15:07:26 <API> so as we are here, we already asked clown API and joanie
15:07:40 <API> fregl, Javido jjmarin , plans to be at guadec?
15:07:48 * API also wonders who is Javido
15:07:52 <fregl> API: no
15:08:01 * clown API, it's Javier
15:08:22 <jjmarin> I don't have plans yet
15:09:09 <API> clown, but there are a lot of people called javier  in spain
15:09:14 <API> in Igalia we have 5 ;)
15:09:20 <clown> only 5??
15:09:34 <joanie> clown: it's the python bruce sketch
15:09:53 <clown> API, when I asked my IRC client for more info on Javido, it said "Javier"
15:10:14 <jjmarin> So the idea is to have a get together of a11y people in GUADEC, a party or something :-)
15:10:18 <API> anyway, I think that we can summary this as
15:10:20 <clown> we used to have someone here named bruce...
15:10:27 <API> we still need to check who goes
15:10:34 <API> and how GUADEC will be organized
15:10:46 <API> afaik, it would be similar to last year
15:10:49 <clown> API, if I were to go, and apply to GNOME Foundation for funding, how soon should I apply?
15:10:52 <API> with some days for bofhs
15:11:14 <API> clown, well, as soon as possible
15:11:17 <API> for your intenrest
15:11:26 <API> in order to check prices for flights
15:11:31 <API> and because it can be also slow
15:11:47 <clown> right about "slow".
15:11:54 <API> so as I said, we still lack information
15:12:04 <API> so we will try to research for next
15:12:05 <API> one
15:12:14 <API> more questions, doubts thoughts about GUADEC?
15:12:56 <jjmarin> no from me
15:14:06 <API> ok, lets move then
15:14:20 <API> #topic Marketing and Fundraising
15:14:25 <API> jjmarin, ?
15:15:12 <jjmarin> Well, this week I don't have the info about the FoG progress bar, we'll update when we have the info
15:15:48 <jjmarin> #info Juanjo is working for another testimonial for the FoG campaign
15:16:33 <jjmarin> #info We have a draft for an a11y article, possible to be send to Linux.com
15:16:51 <jjmarin> and I think I don't have more news
15:17:24 <API> ok, thanks
15:17:29 <API> so moving on then
15:17:33 <API> #topic Reminder: Q4's are due
15:17:44 <API> well, deadline is tomorrow
15:17:46 <API> afair
15:17:53 <API> joanie, am I right?
15:18:02 <joanie> yeah
15:18:16 <joanie> though it tends to be a soft/squishy deadline
15:18:55 <API> hmm, but I thought that this is already the extended deadline
15:19:10 <jjmarin> yes, the  a11y team is usually the 1st one :-)
15:19:12 * API another javi :P
15:19:31 <API> the 1st one asking for an extension?
15:19:38 <API> or the 1st one writing the report?
15:19:52 <jjmarin> both :-)
15:19:57 <joanie> #info Q4s are due. Joanie will do the summary.
15:20:34 <API> ok, so lets move one then, as this was just a reminder
15:20:44 <API> #topic 3.4 Features Updates (ThreePointThree/Features)
15:20:50 <API> in my case,
15:20:56 <API> although it was not a real feature
15:21:04 <jjmarin> joanie: we started the a11y FoG in december, I don't know if we should mention in the a11y report or in the marketing report ?
15:21:18 <API> #info API provided patches for about 5 bugs on gnome-shell related to atk support
15:21:31 <joanie> jjmarin: (a11y or both)
15:21:32 <API> #info waiting for review, hopefully before 3.4 release, but not sure
15:21:40 <API> done
15:21:52 <API> (and sorry for moving too fast to next point)
15:21:53 * joanie thinks we should gently nudge to get it into 3.4
15:22:14 <clown> I have updates from my 3.4 work.  shall I go ahead?
15:22:19 <clown> "for my"
15:22:57 <clown> #info Joseph modified latest brightness/contrast shader and uploaded patch.
15:23:08 <clown> #info - https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=656156#c37
15:23:08 <tota11y> 04Bug 656156: enhancement, Normal, ---, clutter-maint, UNCONFIRMED, Add lightness, brightness, and contrast effects
15:23:17 <clown> #info Reviewed, and modified by Ebassi (just this morning).
15:23:26 <clown> #info Unfortunately, removed the ligthness inversion effect
15:23:34 <clown> #info He is undecided as to whether it belongs in Clutter.
15:23:34 <aleiva> hau
15:23:40 <clown> #info Suggests moving it back to GNOME Shell
15:23:51 <clown> #info So, now that's two Clutter maintainers now suggesting it doesn't belong in Clutter
15:24:12 <clown> #info - Ebassi's comment/review here:  https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=656156#c38
15:24:12 <tota11y> 04Bug 656156: enhancement, Normal, ---, clutter-maint, UNCONFIRMED, Add lightness, brightness, and contrast effects
15:24:32 <clown> done with respect to Clutter.  Now on to GS-mag...
15:24:43 <clown> #info With regard to using these effects in GS-mag:
15:24:51 <clown> #info I'm still trying to figure out why they don't quite work.
15:25:06 <clown> #info Frustrating, since they work as recently as a month ago.
15:25:24 <clown> #info looking less like this will be available for 3.4 — it's gonna be tight.
15:25:46 <clown> #info Joseph will update 3.4 features page to reflect this state of affairs.
15:25:48 <clown> done.
15:27:11 <API> ok, so anyone else?
15:27:15 <API> joanie, ?
15:27:52 <joanie> #info Joanie continues to work on Orca's performance and code cleanup. Notifications are now presented by Orca in gnome-shell -- assuming the patches get approved in time for 3.4.
15:27:55 <joanie> (done)
15:28:43 <API> and as I did with my case
15:28:57 <API> plans for 3.4, although not required to be features
15:28:59 <API> mgorse, jhernandez|eee ?
15:29:19 <jhernandez|eee> just a little bit from my side
15:29:56 <jhernandez|eee> working in gtk deprecations, but I think that it will not be ready for 3.4
15:29:59 <jhernandez|eee> :(
15:30:34 <API> but afaik, part of that is not "I don't have time to" but "I'm blocked due X"
15:30:35 <API> right?
15:30:36 <jhernandez|eee> and, still some pygobject migration-related bugfixing remains
15:30:44 <jhernandez|eee> time
15:30:44 <API> I mean that you are blocked by bugs in other components
15:30:47 <jhernandez|eee> :S
15:31:05 <jhernandez|eee> at this moment, my only blocked bug, is the popup one
15:31:07 <API> that ":S" means that I'm right?
15:31:26 <jhernandez|eee> :s meanss, don't have time enough
15:31:30 <jhernandez|eee> ;)
15:32:15 * jhernandez|eee done
15:32:18 <mgorse> #info mgorse filed a bug against gtkhtml to fix some a11y regressions introduced by the gail refactor, but it's currently unreviewed. Also various AT-SPI fixes (not really new features)
15:32:27 <mgorse> done
15:32:36 <API> hmm, who uses gtkhtml these days?
15:32:44 <joanie> evolution
15:32:46 <API> I thought that evolution has his move
15:32:47 <clown> what is 'gtkhtml'?
15:32:52 <API> to webkit really advanced
15:33:06 <API> clown, is a gtk widget that allows to embed html
15:33:22 <clown> thanks API
15:33:31 <mgorse> It hadn't as of a couple weeks ago at least. I think it's probably still in progress
15:33:32 <API> these days is mostly underdeveloped/unmaintained
15:34:03 <API> mgorse, ok
15:34:22 <API> so, anyone else want to add something in this topic?
15:35:13 <jjmarin> AFAIK, the high contrast theme are done. I must find more info to confim this.
15:36:16 <API> jjmarin, ok, one action for you
15:36:19 <API> having said that
15:36:28 <API> lets move to our favourite topic
15:36:34 <API> #topic miscellaneous time
15:36:49 <jhernandez|eee> xDD
15:36:51 <API> anyone want to add something not scheduled?
15:37:12 * clown notes that API used the Canadian spelling of "favourite".  appreciated.
15:38:00 <API> is the canadian or the british one?
15:38:13 <API> I thought that all that colour, behaviour etc
15:38:19 <API> was "british english"
15:38:20 <clown> both, although the candian derives from the briish
15:38:21 <API> but not sure
15:38:25 <jhernandez|eee> I thought canaadian==british
15:38:27 <API> anyway, I tend to mix all of them
15:38:35 * clown needs to get his spell checker fixed.
15:39:05 <Javido> Nice to see you :) I am Javier Dorado now from Lima Peru
15:39:07 <clown> jhernandez|eee:  we write "analyze".  british write "analyse"
15:39:16 <jhernandez|eee> clown: ok
15:39:32 <clown> we are a strange mixture of british and u.s.
15:39:38 <clown> spellings that is.
15:39:40 <jhernandez|eee> i always thought, that american english is more like andalusian spanish
15:39:43 <jhernandez|eee> :P :P
15:39:55 <clown> Hi Javido.  welcome.
15:39:57 <prlw1> clown: as analyze is also postgresql SQL, that one required a patch to the parser ;-)
15:40:19 <API> miscellaneous time today is really miscellaneous
15:40:43 <aleiva> Javido: saludos
15:42:11 <Javido> No time at all, but still tracking and using open A11y :)
15:42:36 <aleiva> nice to hear
15:43:00 <jjmarin> Javido: nice to meet you
15:43:23 <Javido> Is my first meeting, yesterday I saw the announcement and I found a moment to assist and greets :)
15:43:52 <API> its good to have more people on the meetings
15:43:58 <API> anyway, as you see
15:44:09 <API> today was more empty than other weeks, and short
15:44:22 <API> because as nobody is saying anything a11y-related
15:44:29 <API> I think that I will close the meeting ;)
15:44:44 <jhernandez|eee> Javido: nice to see you here!
15:44:46 <jhernandez|eee> API: +1
15:44:57 <API> so as people agree
15:45:01 <API> or at least jhernandez|eee
15:45:04 <API> #endmeeting