1 15:28:39 <API> #startmeeting
   2 15:28:39 <tota11y> Meeting started Thu Feb  9 15:28:39 2012 UTC.  The chair is API. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
   3 15:28:39 <tota11y> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic.
   4 15:28:53 <API> #topic Reminder: Q4's
   5 15:29:05 <API> #info reminder, people please, fill Q4 report
   6 15:29:14 <API> #info clown already made his homework
   7 15:29:18 <API> coments, doubts?
   8 15:29:35 <joanie> #info Summaries are expected turned in by 17 February
   9 15:29:51 <joanie> #info page is here: https://live.gnome.org/Accessibility/QuarterlyReports/2011/Q4
  10 15:29:55 <joanie> (done)
  11 15:30:12 <API> ok, lets move
  12 15:30:16 <API> #topic Marketing and Fundraising
  13 15:30:17 <API> jjmarin, ?
  14 15:30:18 <clown> are joanie and API going to edit the submissions and transfer them to the main report?
  15 15:30:32 <joanie> yes
  16 15:30:46 <clown> joanie:  do you want them by Feb 17?
  17 15:30:46 <jjmarin> Hi !
  18 15:30:55 <joanie> ideally before then
  19 15:31:08 <joanie> jhernandez|eee: hey :)
  20 15:31:25 <clown> you might want to note that.
  21 15:31:32 <jhernandez|eee> hi all!
  22 15:31:41 <clown> hi all new comers.
  23 15:31:55 <API> jhernandez|eee, due the lack of people we started just some minutes ago
  24 15:31:57 <jjmarin> #info The FoG campaign now has $5,689, around $1400 more that in the last meeting :-)
  25 15:32:04 <API> we are just right now waiting jjmarin feedback
  26 15:32:06 <clown> cool1
  27 15:32:12 <API> cool2
  28 15:32:23 <clown> :-)  I meant "cool!"
  29 15:32:31 * clown dang shift key.
  30 15:32:35 <jjmarin> :-)
  31 15:32:44 <jhernandez|eee> awesome!!
  32 15:33:11 <jjmarin> #info I'm writing an article for Linux.com about a11y and I plan to mention the FoG campaign
  33 15:33:58 <jjmarin> #info the FoG progress bar has been added to planet.gnome.org
  34 15:34:15 <jjmarin> and I think that's all :-)
  35 15:34:23 <jjmarin> questions ?
  36 15:34:36 <jjmarin> suggestions ?
  37 15:34:43 * API looking bar
  38 15:34:53 <aleiva> late late late, as always, hi gang
  39 15:34:59 <API> aleiva, no problem
  40 15:35:00 * joanie grins at aleiva
  41 15:35:00 <API> light agenda
  42 15:35:06 <jjmarin> aleiva: hi !
  43 15:35:08 <API> not a lot of peopple
  44 15:35:10 <clown> hey aleiva
  45 15:35:12 <API> we starte at :30
  46 15:35:13 <aleiva> jjmarin: hola
  47 15:35:18 <aleiva> API: nice to know
  48 15:35:23 <aleiva> clown: hola
  49 15:35:25 <API> well, as it seems that not extra questions to jjmarin
  50 15:35:27 <API> lets move
  51 15:35:28 <jjmarin> the progress bar is updated by hand
  52 15:35:31 * clown wonders if we have a quorum now.
  53 15:35:32 <API> by hand?
  54 15:35:42 <joanie> better than by foot
  55 15:35:42 <jjmarin> not automatically
  56 15:35:44 <aleiva> manual progress bar, nice widget
  57 15:35:46 <joanie> although this being gnome
  58 15:35:49 <jhernandez|eee> joanie: LOL
  59 15:35:49 <API> jjmarin, so you need to update it, lets say, daily
  60 15:35:50 <API> ?
  61 15:36:00 <jjmarin> Lol
  62 15:36:07 <clown> horror!  it's not a GtkProgressBar???
  63 15:36:28 <jjmarin> yes, when we received a email from zana :-)
  64 15:36:36 <joanie> Poor API. Only serious guy in the bunch. :P
  65 15:36:52 <API> ok, lets say that all this means "no questions and no answers" :P
  66 15:36:53 <API> moving
  67 15:37:00 <API> #topic 3.4 Progress
  68 15:37:08 <API> #info reminder: update q4 features
  69 15:37:12 <API> #info additionally:
  70 15:37:29 <API> #info API, as a FOSDEM effect I'm working these ddays on gnome-shell
  71 15:37:40 <API> #info adding more names, roles and states
  72 15:37:50 <API> #info patches already on bugzilla and being updated
  73 15:37:56 <joanie> yay!
  74 15:38:04 <API> #info hopefully 3.4 will have a GNOME-Shell with a proper ATK support
  75 15:38:08 <API> done in my case
  76 15:38:12 <joanie> woohoo
  77 15:38:22 <jhernandez|eee> API: you rocks!
  78 15:38:22 <API> any other has more 3.4 stuff?
  79 15:38:29 <joanie> #info Orca's performance is improved
  80 15:38:30 <API> jhernandez|eee, you did recently
  81 15:38:40 <aleiva> joanie: sadly not by us :-((((
  82 15:38:41 <joanie> #info Orca's stability is improved (crashes gnome-shell far less now) ;)
  83 15:38:42 <API> a accerciser release, more plans towards 3.4?
  84 15:38:50 <jjmarin> A better gnome-shell experience is a better gnome experience :-)
  85 15:39:02 <aleiva> #info aleiva is going to work into libvte bugs for real
  86 15:39:03 <jhernandez|eee> API: yes
  87 15:39:40 <aleiva> jhernandez|eee: and...
  88 15:39:51 <jjmarin> jhernandez: and it seems the ipython problem has been fixed it, right ?
  89 15:39:52 <joanie> #info as more FOSDEM fallout, Joanie is working on the dbus activation for desktop environment independence
  90 15:39:53 <jhernandez|eee> basically, fix some tracebacks and deal with the unicode crap
  91 15:40:12 <jhernandez|eee> jjmarin: yes, for ipython 0.11
  92 15:40:12 <joanie> the ipython stuff is still not working for me in F17
  93 15:40:19 <joanie> (ipython 0.12)
  94 15:40:32 <jjmarin> jhernandez: well done !
  95 15:40:51 <clown> #info uploaded another patch to clutter for brightness/contrast changes.
  96 15:40:53 <jhernandez|eee> joanie: I need some time for seeing what I need to make the ipython plugin 0.12 compliant
  97 15:40:59 <clown> #info this time the patch is for master (last time for clutter-1.8).
  98 15:41:02 <API> jhernandez|eee, please some #info, for minutes sake ;)
  99 15:41:03 * joanie nods
 100 15:41:11 <clown> #info integrating this into gnome-shell at the moment.
 101 15:41:33 <clown> #info also updated the 3.4 features page to note current progress on brightness/contrast and focus tracking.
 102 15:41:36 <clown> (done).
 103 15:42:25 <clown> is this an 'eight' or  a smiley?  8
 104 15:42:27 <jhernandez|eee> #info accerciser has a new release with ipython plugin 0.11 compliant and macaroon has been partially ported to pygi, for to keep the Orca performance tests alive
 105 15:43:22 <jhernandez|eee> #info for 3.4, we need to fix some issues with pygobject and unicode problems
 106 15:43:32 <joanie> clown: for me it's an 8, and for the bot it's an 8
 107 15:43:32 * jhernandez|eee is done
 108 15:43:59 <clown> is this clutter-1.8 (clutter-one point eight)?
 109 15:44:00 <joanie> what orca performance tests?
 110 15:44:06 <joanie> yes clown
 111 15:44:11 <clown> ah, I see.  the problem is the karen.
 112 15:44:17 <clown> "parenthesis"
 113 15:44:33 <jhernandez|eee> sorry
 114 15:44:34 <aleiva> joanie: the ones we didnt push
 115 15:44:39 <jhernandez|eee> s/performance/regression/
 116 15:44:48 <joanie> ah
 117 15:44:49 <joanie> k
 118 15:44:56 <jhernandez|eee> and of course, those related performance tests
 119 15:44:58 <joanie> and thanks re regression test aliveness :)
 120 15:45:37 <jhernandez|eee> joanie: ;)
 121 15:45:40 <jjmarin> clown: what is a karen ? an ED ?
 122 15:45:48 * joanie laughs
 123 15:46:13 <clown> jjmarin:  it was paren, but but spell checker 'fixed it' for me.
 124 15:46:21 <joanie> I see we landed in misc time
 125 15:46:30 <jjmarin> ups :-)
 126 15:46:31 * joanie pokes API for a topic change
 127 15:46:50 <API> well as I said
 128 15:46:52 <API> light agenda
 129 15:46:53 <API> so
 130 15:47:00 <API> #topic miscellaneous time
 131 15:47:12 <API> add comments not included on agenda but short blabla
 132 15:47:50 <clown> #info  david b's emailed this morning about a new mozilla a11y list.
 133 15:48:02 <clown> #info https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/accessibility
 134 15:48:04 <jhernandez|eee> are there plans for some a11y stuff at guadec?
 135 15:48:13 <clown> #info if you want to join.
 136 15:48:15 * clown done.
 137 15:48:49 <API> jhernandez|eee, define "a11y stuff"?
 138 15:48:54 <jhernandez|eee> xDDD
 139 15:49:13 <jhernandez|eee> meetings/hackfest/bof?
 140 15:49:28 <API> well, the informally talked about having a kind of hackfest
 141 15:49:31 <API> pre or post guadec
 142 15:49:37 <API> but as I said, informally
 143 15:49:50 <API> so I guess that if we are enough people there, we can try that
 144 15:49:54 <jhernandez|eee> ok
 145 15:49:59 <aleiva> two weeks at a coruña?
 146 15:50:00 <API> not planned bof or meeting, but we could talk about it
 147 15:50:09 <API> aleiva, well, no
 148 15:50:11 <aleiva> difficult to me
 149 15:50:15 <API> perhaps one day or two
 150 15:50:16 <aleiva> during guadec?
 151 15:50:21 <aleiva> easier then
 152 15:50:24 <API> as you said, two weeks can be too much
 153 15:50:34 <API> anyway, we can add this topic on next agenda
 154 15:50:34 <jhernandez|eee> and, what about an a11y booth??
 155 15:50:42 <API> or on one of the following agenda
 156 15:50:44 <jhernandez|eee> makes sense?
 157 15:50:55 <API> well, we can talk about that on that agenda
 158 15:51:02 <jhernandez|eee> okok
 159 15:51:02 <API> the problem is that today we are not enough people
 160 15:51:03 <API> so
 161 15:51:29 <API> #action someone, add a topic in one of the following meetings, in order to talk about plans during,pre or post guadec
 162 15:51:42 <API> #info some ideas: meeting, hackfest, bof, a11y booth
 163 15:51:49 * clown wants to meet "someone"
 164 15:52:02 <joanie> #action joanie will add that topic to the agenda when she does the minutes
 165 15:52:15 <jhernandez|eee> thanks
 166 15:52:50 * jjmarin thinks joanie is super-someone :-)
 167 15:53:01 <aleiva> :-D
 168 15:53:05 <clown> yup
 169 15:53:05 <jhernandez|eee> xDDD
 170 15:53:13 * joanie thinks joanie is the opposite
 171 15:53:19 <aleiva> ever
 172 15:53:19 <aleiva> xD
 173 15:53:27 * clown knows that joanie is a quorum lover
 174 15:53:32 <joanie> heh
 175 15:53:40 <API> well, I was vague because it dosn't need to be next one, as there is still a lot of time until next guadec
 176 15:53:55 * aleiva thinks API want to go out :-D
 177 15:54:00 <aleiva> wants*
 178 15:54:01 <joanie> out where?
 179 15:54:06 <joanie> outside?
 180 15:54:07 <aleiva> out of the channel now
 181 15:54:15 <joanie> might be cold. Burr! :P
 182 15:54:15 <API> aleiva, good idea
 183 15:54:19 <API> well, 5 minutes
 184 15:54:23 <API> any other misc comment?
 185 15:54:38 <aleiva> nope
 186 15:54:57 <API> good answer
 187 15:54:59 <API> meeting over
 188 15:55:02 <jhernandez|eee> not from my  side
 189 15:55:04 <API> :P
 190 15:55:08 <API> #endmeeting