Meeting Summary

• Meeting started by API at 14:36:07 UTC.
• Meeting ended at 15:30:35 UTC.
• Participants (Lines Said):
  • Piñeiro - API (70)
  • Joseph - clown (33)
  • Frederik - fregl 29)
  • Mike - mgorse (18)
  • Ale - aleiva (11)
  • Heidi - heidi (8)
  • Juanjo - jjmarin (5)
  • Patrick - prlw1 (2)
  • Fernando - fer (1)

• Log

Possibly add a children-invalidated event

• Related Documentation

• If an app sends -1 for the detail for a children-changed, we will assume that the index is unknown.
• Mike will modify libatspi to fill in the index when possible (ie, when it has the child cached, which it will not for trees with MANAGES_DESCENDANTS for instance)

• AtkObject:children-changed documentation will be updated, as this could be also used on ATK implementors. Piñeiro will update the documentation.

Quick update on gs-mag

• Joseph submitted a new patch for the zoom options dialog in universal access. (See Bug 643086, comment 27. He is awaiting review.

• With respect to Joseph's invert video patch for gs-mag (Bug 639851, comment 8), the suggestion is to move it to Clutter.

• Joseph will reply on bug to say, "yes, let's move these effects to clutter".

CSUN Speaker Proposals

• While we are still waiting for the budget to be approved, the treasurer and Board have not yet told us we are insane.
• Thus we anticipate being able to send two speakers to CSUN, the key being "speakers."
• CSUN call for papers typically opens in September. It's now August. Therefore, now might be the time for anyone who would make a good speaker to consider speaking and thinking about topics.
• Joanie will send a mail to gnome-accessibility-list suggesting people be thinking about presenting at CSUN.

Testing Distro

• Given the amount of trouble Javi has been having with the testing distro "final spin," Joanie questioned who all is using it.
• Joseph indicated that it is required, "promised to AEGIS europe for their user testing."
• Joanie thinks that AEGIS user testing, while valuable, goes well beyond the scope of GNOME Accessibility Team needs and what the volunteers (i.e. Javi) can be asked to do.
• Joanie would encourage the AEGIS testing folks to find some other means for achieving their needs/goals in this area.

Action Items

New

• Mike will modify libatspi to fill in the index when possible (ie, when it has the child cached, which it will not for trees with MANAGES_DESCENDANTS for instance)

• Piñeiro will update the AtkObject:children-changed documentation, as this could be also used on ATK implementors.

• Joseph will reply on the bug to say, "yes, let's move these effects to clutter".
• Joanie will send a mail to gnome-accessibility-list suggesting people be thinking about presenting at CSUN.

Ongoing / Rolled-Over

• Team:
  • Check how Mike's change improves desktop performance (i.e. with a11y on and no AT listening).
• Ale:
  • Look for the python-gobject testing-distro bug and talk with jhernandez to try to fix it and create a new spin.
• Brian:
  • Send a mail summarizing his proposal regarding a testing-centered design.
  • Announce his Mago tests on the gnome-accessibility-devel list, and also create a README and INSTALL.
• Javi:
  • Spin a new (and possibly the last accessibility-specific) spin of the testing distro once he has the new tarball from Joanie and any other required changes requested by our team.
• Joanie:
  • Investigate what other resources we have/can draw upon to achieve the desktop performance testing work.
• Joseph:

  • Explore the JavaScript Atspi import further to see how much is available.

• Juanjo:
  • Investigate wxWidgets' internals and how it uses Gtk+
• Mike:
  • File a bug regarding GAIL treeview children / children-changed signals, attach a patch, and call for testers.