**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu 07:06:01 2010 07:06:01 * Now talking on #a11y 07:06:33 hi, 07:06:37 sorry 07:06:39 im late 07:07:12 hmmm 07:07:24 aleiva, are you in the office? 07:07:42 Hi 07:08:01 mgorse, hi 07:10:36 API: yeah 07:10:51 and joanie 07:11:04 API: joanie should be coming 07:11:15 API: he meet with juanje 07:11:24 API: s/he/she 07:12:00 aleiva, ok, as far as I remember 07:12:12 she wrote down some notes on our final AEGIS meeting 07:12:14 anyway 07:12:31 lets use the improvised agenda that I wrote yesterday 07:12:52 (feel free anyone to suggest other topic= 07:12:53 ) 07:12:59 1. AEGIS report share feelings and plans 07:13:22 just to comment that AEGIS hackfest, except for all the jinx things 07:13:30 was good in my opinion 07:13:53 and just some general conclusions 07:14:06 1. need to keep working towards gnome 3 07:14:18 2. some of the items of the list are (again) outdated 07:14:33 3. We need a roadmap (I will create a rough draft soon) 07:14:46 4. We need to decide if we need more hackfests the next year 07:15:02 * KeWang has quit (Leaving) 07:15:05 although probably CSUN just in the middle of GNOME 3 is not a good moment 07:15:13 ok, just a general summary 07:15:24 someone wants to say something about AEGIS? 07:15:27 (short please) 07:15:46 Bryen, aleiva mgorse shaunm ? 07:16:00 people that couldn't assist can also ask 07:16:10 FlaPer87, eeejay etc. 07:16:13 * KeWang (~wangke@192.9.202.3) has joined #a11y 07:17:12 well, personally for me was a very positive experience, also a lot of opportunities there 07:18:14 I mostly worked on at-spi. Having Shaun there was really helpful--I have a better idea of what to do about documentation now 07:20:12 well, as one of the following points is GNOME 3.0 07:20:31 mgorse, I think that you can talk a little about what you did on the hackfest 07:20:41 and your plan for the short-term related to at-spi2 07:21:07 (more or less what you said the last day on hackfest) 07:21:50 I fixed a few performance issues, at which point I decided that it would probably be better to have a core C library implementing the AT side of at-spi2, rather than have everything implemented in Python 07:22:24 so I'm starting to work on adapting the half-finished cspi code I had. I want to try to get something minimal working so that I can test to determine for sure whether it's actually worth doing 07:24:04 mgorse, just a guess, that would mean that you will implement cspi for at-spi2? 07:24:12 or at least part of it? 07:25:32 What I'm doing will make it easier to implement cspi, but it will epend if I have time to do it. The CSPI api doesn't seem to be the same as what a GLib-based app usually has, so it doesn't seem ideal to use with gobject introspection 07:26:29 mgorse, hmm, but the one that want to use directly cspi? like dasher? 07:27:37 * ragb (~ragb@bl8-132-70.dsl.telepac.pt) has joined #a11y 07:27:52 I think I'd end up writing a thin wrapper around the library I'm working on, to translate the api, if I'm going to implement it 07:28:44 ok mgorse thanks for the update 07:29:45 so lets continue with other gnome 3.0 07:30:12 * msanchez (~msanchez@155.99.117.91.static.mundo-r.com) has joined #a11y 07:30:13 KeWang, something new from your side 07:30:15 ? 07:30:19 (JAW) 07:31:16 API, I'm reviewing JAW bugs on bugzilla recently 07:31:38 Hope I can get some of them fixed soon :-) 07:32:33 KeWang, ok, that means that you started your work on JAW again, right? 07:32:45 AFAIK, you were not able to do that on the last months 07:33:13 * bnitz1 (~bnitz@79.97.181.9) has joined #a11y 07:33:18 API, yes. 07:34:06 I was busy on transfer from sun to oracle last month... 07:34:40 KeWang, that means that LiYuan will also have time to go back to work? 07:34:48 I mean to work in a11y things ;) 07:34:53 for sure he is working 07:35:20 yes, Li's working on a11y. 07:37:30 KeWang, ok, awesome, lets hope he can assist to future meetings to ask him directly 07:37:41 * ragb has quit (Ping timeout: 600 seconds) 07:37:57 well, anyone wants to ask/share something about gnome 3.0 updates? 07:38:39 API, do you have any questions that I can pass to Li? 07:39:51 KeWang, well, you said that he is working on a11y, so questions like 07:39:57 in which project he will work 07:40:13 or if he would have time enough to help mgorse with at-spi2 07:40:24 or in any "red item" from the gnome 3.0 list 07:43:58 * bnitz1 has quit (Leaving.) 07:43:59 * FlaPer87 has quit (Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)) 07:44:15 API, ok, I'll pass these to Li. He will attend the next meeting. 07:44:42 KeWang, ok, thanks 07:44:45 so lets move 07:44:48 * API checking agenda 07:45:04 Feedback on Caribou requirements questions 07:45:13 well, heidi has created a wiki page 07:45:32 in order to get feedback 07:45:49 from caribou 07:46:47 http://live.gnome.org/Caribou/RequirementsQuestions 07:47:03 some people have started to add some notes here 07:47:34 anyway, it would be good that more feedback (me included) 07:47:38 dpellicer you here? 07:53:10 ... 07:53:14 it seems that no 07:53:46 so lets move for this last 5 minutes 07:54:01 roadmap 07:54:05 well, nothing new 07:54:12 I still need to create a rough draft 07:54:14 as a base 07:54:29 and then let people to discuss it in order to improve it 07:54:54 Boston Summit: 07:55:12 joanie and aleiva plan to go there to talk with gs and webkitgtk people 07:55:16 someone else? 07:56:04 probably we'll meet with gnome-shell folks too 07:56:08 I'll be there, since I'm living here right now, but not sure what I'll do exactly 07:59:52 aleiva, sorry, I should avoid to use acronyms :P 07:59:55 gs == gnome shell 08:00:28 mgorse, ok, thanks 08:00:38 * KeWang has quit (Leaving) 08:00:46 well, time is over 08:00:48 so 08:00:51 miscellaneous 08:01:02 someone what to add something to the meeting? 08:01:14 API: aps. true 08:02:03 API: then, we'll meet also with ezoom developers, and whoever want to meet with us about orca and a11y