Meeting Summary

• Meeting started by joanie at 16:07:07 CET.
• Meeting ended at 16:34:05 CET.
• Participants (Lines Said):
  • Joanie - joanie (67)
  • Ale - aleiva (6)
  • Fer - aleiva (6)
  • Mike - mgorse (6)
  • Heidi - heidi (1)

• Log

GNOME 3.6 - pyatspi2 deprecation?

• We can now use at-spi2 via gobject introspection.
• It seems to Joanie that there is not, therefore, a need to also maintain pyatspi2.
• Joanie is going to try migrating Orca to at-spi2 via introspection.
• What do people think about deprecating pyatspi2, giving people a year (tops) to convert, and then stop maintaining it?
• Mike will need to test whether interfaces still cause problems in terms of function names conflicting (ie, *_get_attributes functions) and, if so, if something can be done about it.
• No one seems to be opposed to the tentative deprecation of pyatspi2.
• Next steps: Wait for Mike to look into the potential issue he raised.
• Mike believes he will have an preliminary answer by next meeting, so we will table this discussion for one week.

GNOME 3.6 - Python 3

• GNOME seems to want us to migrate to Python 3 (though it's not an official GnomeGoal yet).

• Canonical is targetting their next stable release as only Python 3 -- at least in terms of the live media -- as far as Joanie understands it.

• Therefore, we kinda sorta need to do this.
• Mike has begun (and might be finished??) with the work in pyatspi.
• Joanie has been working on this for Orca.
• Liblouis has a prelimary version committed.
• Speechd has a patch attached to a bug.
• brlapi's project lead thinks he can do this soon.
• Our team will target GNOME 3.6 for being migrated to Python 3.

Marketing and Fundraising

• Juanjo could not make it to today's meeting and has no updates.

Reminders

• Please please please add your input to the Open Help Conference page

• LINK: https://live.gnome.org/Accessibility/AccessibleHelp

Miscellaneous Time

• (nothing entered into the minutes)

Action Items

New

• None

Ongoing / Rolled-Over

• Team members with knowledge of/access to the requested figures regarding users with disabilities should provide them.
• Brian:
  • Send a mail summarizing his proposal regarding a testing-centered design.
  • Announce his Mago tests on the gnome-accessibility-devel list, and also create a README and INSTALL.
• Joanie
  • update the 3.4 team planning pages for 3.6
  • do a full evaluation of the accessibility breakage in Evolution 3.4 and file bugs accordingly.
• Joseph:
  • Joseph to email Jan and Peter about statistics regarding users with disabilities.

  • Explore the JavaScript Atspi import further to see how much is available.

• Juanjo:
  • Contact Bryen about the OLF a11y booth.
• Mike:
  • Add the keyword 'accessibility' to gnome core module bugs he's filed (e.g. evolution and nautilus) which are still open.
  • File a bug regarding GAIL treeview children / children-changed signals, attach a patch, and call for testers.
  • Modify libatspi to fill in the index when possible (ie, when it has the child cached, which it will not for trees with MANAGES_DESCENDANTS for instance)
• Piñeiro:

  • Update the AtkObject:children-changed documentation, as this could be also used on ATK implementors.